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I highly doubt this. Historically speaking the invasion dynamic is going the other way - FROM Europe INTO Russia. Russians are scared of the European invasion,

I highly doubt this. Historically speaking the invasion dynamic is going the other way - FROM Europe INTO Russia. Russians are scared of the European invasion, not the other way around.

FredPret 5y ago
Yes and how did those invasions go? Russia is a fortress due to its size and weather. But when Russia invaded Europe towards the end of WW2, they grabbed all of Poland, half of Germany, and more. They could have gone all the way until the English channel if they wanted, if the US wasn’t there.
- pphysch 5y ago
  Russia did not literally invade Europe. This is ridiculous revisionism. The Red Army singlehandedly defeated Hitler's eastward invading campaign and pushed it all the way to Berlin.
  - FredPret 5y ago
    Soooo… the Russian army beat a European one and marched several hundred km’s into Europe, but it’s not an invasion? Yes, the European nation attacked first, and the Russian response was 100% justified. The point is that Russia struck back against one of the strongest armies in history, broke its back, and then counter-invaded. They only stopped when they ran into the Allies.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Without an expansionist- one could say evangelical- ideology like communism in power in Russia, why the heck would Russians care to push west? As any great power they want influence, yes, but it's odd to imagine that 20th century dynamics at their most tumultuous and bloody overshadow all of the previous centuries' default policies.
- theflyinghorse 5y ago
  > Russia is a fortress due to its size and weather. Most of Russia is considered to be indefensible[0]. Its hardly a fortress by any measure. 0 - https://johnbrownnotesandessays.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-and-curse-of-geography.html https://johnbrownnotesandessays.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-...

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I highly doubt this. Historically speaking the invasion dynamic is going the other way - FROM Europe INTO Russia. Russians are scared of the European invasion,

by theflyinghorse 5y ago

I highly doubt this. Historically speaking the invasion dynamic is going the other way - FROM Europe INTO Russia. Russians are scared of the European invasion, not the other way around.

FredPret 5y ago
Yes and how did those invasions go? Russia is a fortress due to its size and weather. But when Russia invaded Europe towards the end of WW2, they grabbed all of Poland, half of Germany, and more. They could have gone all the way until the English channel if they wanted, if the US wasn’t there.
- pphysch 5y ago
  Russia did not literally invade Europe. This is ridiculous revisionism. The Red Army singlehandedly defeated Hitler's eastward invading campaign and pushed it all the way to Berlin.
  - FredPret 5y ago
    Soooo… the Russian army beat a European one and marched several hundred km’s into Europe, but it’s not an invasion? Yes, the European nation attacked first, and the Russian response was 100% justified. The point is that Russia struck back against one of the strongest armies in history, broke its back, and then counter-invaded. They only stopped when they ran into the Allies.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Without an expansionist- one could say evangelical- ideology like communism in power in Russia, why the heck would Russians care to push west? As any great power they want influence, yes, but it's odd to imagine that 20th century dynamics at their most tumultuous and bloody overshadow all of the previous centuries' default policies.
- theflyinghorse 5y ago
  > Russia is a fortress due to its size and weather. Most of Russia is considered to be indefensible[0]. Its hardly a fortress by any measure. 0 - https://johnbrownnotesandessays.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-and-curse-of-geography.html https://johnbrownnotesandessays.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-...