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This relationship between the government, national security establishment and community, and the tech industry has already existed for decades from the founding

This relationship between the government, national security establishment and community, and the tech industry has already existed for decades from the founding of Silicon Valley with Fairchild Semiconductor to many others afterwards ranging from Oracle (a CIA funded project), RSA to Palantir. There is even a public VC: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel - https://fcw.com/blogs/lectern/2014/09/cia-oracle-government-randd.aspx https://fcw.com/blogs/lectern/2014/09/cia-oracle-government-... https://fedtechmagazine.com/article/2018/09/how-government-helped-spur-microchip-industry https://fedtechmagazine.com/article/2018/09/how-government-h... https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/12/nsa_spying_who.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/12/nsa_spying_wh... - Karkar Electronics and NATO telecommunications: https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=edward-mitri-karkar&pid=168867334&fhid=2281 https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=edw...

klaudius 5y ago
There are cases where governments implemented protectionism and support for industry, but it failed. You have the case of computer industry in Brazil. It's not as simple as saying that government support is the key since there are many cases where it didn't work.
- rsj_hn 5y ago
  That's interesting, do you have a source that describes Brazil's tech intervention?
- dotcommand 5y ago
  But there are no cases of a successful tech industry without government support. So we can safely say government support is key. Perhaps government support is necessary but not sufficient.
- contingencies 5y ago
  Bulgaria would be another example.
seppin 5y ago
Which all amounts to a drop in the bucket compared to how much Chinese state money stands up and continues to subsidize all domestic industry, from telecom to solar to cars.

klaudius 5y ago

There are cases where governments implemented protectionism and support for industry, but it failed. You have the case of computer industry in Brazil. It's not as simple as saying that government support is the key since there are many cases where it didn't work.

rsj_hn 5y ago
That's interesting, do you have a source that describes Brazil's tech intervention?
dotcommand 5y ago
But there are no cases of a successful tech industry without government support. So we can safely say government support is key. Perhaps government support is necessary but not sufficient.
contingencies 5y ago
Bulgaria would be another example.

seppin 5y ago

Which all amounts to a drop in the bucket compared to how much Chinese state money stands up and continues to subsidize all domestic industry, from telecom to solar to cars.