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There is no ethics in business anymore, in Tech industry and any other industry. The right to buy food and pay your bills is what you get from your payment if,

There is no ethics in business anymore, in Tech industry and any other industry. The right to buy food and pay your bills is what you get from your payment if, and only if, you are willing to compromise your own ethics. If you start to make your work decisions based on ethics it will be really hard for you to stay at your current job or get a new one. Unfortunately, this is the world we live now.

bittercynic 5y ago
Do you think there are some exceptions to this rule? I have the impression that grocery retailer Costco is relatively good in terms of respecting their workers and customers, and I think that is one factor in their success. I'd be interested in learning about other companies that have priorities beyond maximizing this quarter's numbers, or learning why my impression of Costco is wrong.
- akagusu 5y ago
  I think some exceptions are small/medium businesses, specially small businesses. If you look at the majority of small businesses not only in America but all over the world, they don't even make profit, they just pay the bills, they don't have the mindset of grow at all cost. About Costco, I really don't know, but I know some big companies can have ethics because I've worked for one. It was the best place I ever worked. Unfortunately, it is rare these days.
bserge 5y ago
Anymore? It used to be worse.
- akagusu 5y ago
  Do you think it was worse? Why?
that_guy_iain 5y ago
What sort of ethics do you have that need to be comprised to work in tech?
- akagusu 5y ago
  Tell me one tech company that does not use dark patterns? And I think the problem is not only tech, it's everywhere. People turned on the "money at all cost" mindset. They know their actions will do harm to someone but they simply don't care.
  - that_guy_iain 5y ago
    All depends if you mean actual dark patterns or something you find distasteful. Either way my current company doesn’t, we work in the electric Vergil’s industry. Not a single distasteful thing expect some of the meetings with clients and management plans. But tech wise, none that I know of.

bittercynic 5y ago

Do you think there are some exceptions to this rule? I have the impression that grocery retailer Costco is relatively good in terms of respecting their workers and customers, and I think that is one factor in their success. I'd be interested in learning about other companies that have priorities beyond maximizing this quarter's numbers, or learning why my impression of Costco is wrong.

akagusu 5y ago
I think some exceptions are small/medium businesses, specially small businesses. If you look at the majority of small businesses not only in America but all over the world, they don't even make profit, they just pay the bills, they don't have the mindset of grow at all cost. About Costco, I really don't know, but I know some big companies can have ethics because I've worked for one. It was the best place I ever worked. Unfortunately, it is rare these days.

bserge 5y ago

Anymore? It used to be worse.

akagusu 5y ago
Do you think it was worse? Why?

that_guy_iain 5y ago

What sort of ethics do you have that need to be comprised to work in tech?

akagusu 5y ago
Tell me one tech company that does not use dark patterns? And I think the problem is not only tech, it's everywhere. People turned on the "money at all cost" mindset. They know their actions will do harm to someone but they simply don't care.
- that_guy_iain 5y ago
  All depends if you mean actual dark patterns or something you find distasteful. Either way my current company doesn’t, we work in the electric Vergil’s industry. Not a single distasteful thing expect some of the meetings with clients and management plans. But tech wise, none that I know of.