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Related: Do authors of a digital camera own the copyright for their (preprocessed) images?

by pulse7 5y ago

bruce343434 5y ago
Why wouldn't they? It's just a tool. When I write something by pen, do I get the copyright or does the company that made the pen? Me, obviously.
- XCSme 5y ago
  But what if the pen draws by itself? You just say "draw a dog", and it does. I do think you should always be the copyright owner, unless it's clearly stated in their terms that any image created using their tool is owned by nVidia.
  - bruce343434 5y ago
    But it's still just a tool that functions to your input. An IDE which insert a lot of boilerplate and autocompletions, does it get the copyright to your codebase? Nope.
  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    Interestingly, if I employ an artist to produce a work (e.g. software code), usually the employment contract would say the copyright belongs to me and not that artist. "Hey pen, sign this contract."...
jeffpeterson 5y ago
I'd just like to point out that this line of inquiry is not some unanswered philosophical question. All of capitalism is focused on this question of ownership. Who owns the picture? The answer is always whoever the parties involved agreed would own it. Both options can exist and they'll have different prices. This same question often comes up with self-driving cars and "fault", and it seems to regress into the same trap. Ownership of _risk_ is one of the primary concerns of capitalism. The question is not, "who should be at fault?", it is instead "what is the cost of this risk?" and then we buy and sell that risk like everything else (which is also how we determine that cost). If the self-driving advocates are right and self-driving is safer, then the risk will likely cost less than your current insurance. Of course, it's not always clear. If the parties can't agree who owns a thing, they often use some legal mechanism to resolve their dispute.

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Related: Do authors of a digital camera own the copyright for their (preprocessed) images?

by pulse7 5y ago

Related: Do authors of a digital camera own the copyright for their (preprocessed) images?

bruce343434 5y ago
Why wouldn't they? It's just a tool. When I write something by pen, do I get the copyright or does the company that made the pen? Me, obviously.
- XCSme 5y ago
  But what if the pen draws by itself? You just say "draw a dog", and it does. I do think you should always be the copyright owner, unless it's clearly stated in their terms that any image created using their tool is owned by nVidia.
  - bruce343434 5y ago
    But it's still just a tool that functions to your input. An IDE which insert a lot of boilerplate and autocompletions, does it get the copyright to your codebase? Nope.
  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    Interestingly, if I employ an artist to produce a work (e.g. software code), usually the employment contract would say the copyright belongs to me and not that artist. "Hey pen, sign this contract."...
jeffpeterson 5y ago
I'd just like to point out that this line of inquiry is not some unanswered philosophical question. All of capitalism is focused on this question of ownership. Who owns the picture? The answer is always whoever the parties involved agreed would own it. Both options can exist and they'll have different prices. This same question often comes up with self-driving cars and "fault", and it seems to regress into the same trap. Ownership of _risk_ is one of the primary concerns of capitalism. The question is not, "who should be at fault?", it is instead "what is the cost of this risk?" and then we buy and sell that risk like everything else (which is also how we determine that cost). If the self-driving advocates are right and self-driving is safer, then the risk will likely cost less than your current insurance. Of course, it's not always clear. If the parties can't agree who owns a thing, they often use some legal mechanism to resolve their dispute.