What can I tell you? You work around bad managers, not “typical” managers, IME. The typical productive ops middle manager is a pretty stressed out animal or lef

What can I tell you? You work around bad managers, not “typical” managers, IME. The typical productive ops middle manager is a pretty stressed out animal or left on the side of the road, the typical senior ops manager has an easier daily life punctuated by episodes of challenging and rewarding hardships. Good managers _are_ hard to find relative to good individual contributors. On that we agree. Most individual contributors who think they want to be managers quickly find out it’s not an easy or fake job - it’s a damn hard job to do correctly. Bad managers beget bad junior managers, but that’s rarely sustainable in the long term for an organization, again IME.