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Hi, shadowlight! Your comment here is a bit out of place. HN is a nice place where folks come for interesting news and conversation. In order to keep this place

Hi, shadowlight! Your comment here is a bit out of place. HN is a nice place where folks come for interesting news and conversation. In order to keep this place civil there are guidelines in place, which you can find at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and review at your leisure. I've included some here for your reference: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

shadowlight 5y ago
Except I'm not doing ANY of that. Your comment is deceptively insulting and your tone is overly polite and fake. Case in point: "Hi shadowlight!". Look, I remained impartial and neutral and civil in my comment. Read it carefully there is no violation of the rules, I've been here longer than you for sure so I know the rules and I know what constitutes a violation. This is NOT it. No seriously, it's like a murderer accusing a nun of killing somebody. There is absolutely NONE of what you are claiming is going on here. It's almost an outright lie, I'm curious if you're just biased or if you're a liar. Additionally who are you? Are you impersonating an admin? You're obviously NOT dang. It's not written in the law nor is it in the the HN rules but walking around and pretending you're a cop is sketchy and strange. Especially when you're not even remotely qualified to do the job AND you're executing the directive incorrectly. I'll help you differentiate between snark and no snark. This reply has a bit of snark because I'm talking to a vigilante HN cop, the OTHER reply was completely impartial and civil. That is the difference. EDIT: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25162954 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25162954 Look in the link above, another example of this guy trying and failing (he literally got scolded by dang) to enforce the rules when he's not even part of authority. I suggest you back off and use the tools given to you to moderate. Use the karma. Get to 800 and you can vote me down if you disagree.
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  This is not civil, FYI: > So in essence you don't know what will happen in the future. You have no clue yet you support it blindly, why? > > That is my point. You don't know and you don't give a shit. The long term effects are irrelevant to you.
  - shadowlight 5y ago
    That is completely civil. It is just to the point and adamant rather than fake and simpish and overly polite. Whether what I stated is true or untrue, the nature of what I said was not derogatory or insulting. I specifically stated that the person supports something, and in my opinion, blindly. I also stated he doesn't care about something and I ALSO implied most of the population of the world doesn't care EITHER. Those are words that are forceful But civil. You are totally not comprehending the difference between civility and servitude. Learn to put force, power and truth behind your conviction while being civil and not being afraid to harm the other persons precious feelings.
    - robertlagrant 5y ago
      > Learn to put force, power and truth behind your conviction while being civil and not being afraid to harm the other persons precious feelings. Calling them "precious" feelings sort of belies the idea that you're just talking facts in a forceful way. If you struggle to separate your disdain for people who disagree with you then that's a chance to grow, or a chance to dig your heels in. Seems you've made your choice; hopefully one day you'll reverse it.
      - shadowlight 5y ago
        >Calling them "precious" feelings sort of belies the idea that you're just talking facts in a forceful way. Feelings shouldn't be precious. They should be disregarded. When communicating a point, if disdain is felt it should be presented. If it is not felt then it shouldn't be presented. >If you struggle to separate your disdain for people who disagree with you then that's a chance to grow, or a chance to dig your heels in. I hold disdain for certain people. But not for all people who disagree with me. Clearly what you're saying is completely false. Growth to me is not the ability to separate disdain from disagreement. Growth is the ability to not hide your disdain. To express it when it's required. To you I am not expressing disdain. You only perceive it as such because you disdain what I am saying. The reality is, I'm the same as you. I'm quite well off. The difference between us, is that I don't twist reality or morality to justify my sins. I knew you were rich and well off, because I am rich and well off. Why would I disdain someone like me? The only difference between us is that I don't lie to myself.

shadowlight 5y ago

Except I'm not doing ANY of that. Your comment is deceptively insulting and your tone is overly polite and fake. Case in point: "Hi shadowlight!". Look, I remained impartial and neutral and civil in my comment. Read it carefully there is no violation of the rules, I've been here longer than you for sure so I know the rules and I know what constitutes a violation. This is NOT it. No seriously, it's like a murderer accusing a nun of killing somebody. There is absolutely NONE of what you are claiming is going on here. It's almost an outright lie, I'm curious if you're just biased or if you're a liar. Additionally who are you? Are you impersonating an admin? You're obviously NOT dang. It's not written in the law nor is it in the the HN rules but walking around and pretending you're a cop is sketchy and strange. Especially when you're not even remotely qualified to do the job AND you're executing the directive incorrectly. I'll help you differentiate between snark and no snark. This reply has a bit of snark because I'm talking to a vigilante HN cop, the OTHER reply was completely impartial and civil. That is the difference. EDIT: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25162954 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25162954 Look in the link above, another example of this guy trying and failing (he literally got scolded by dang) to enforce the rules when he's not even part of authority. I suggest you back off and use the tools given to you to moderate. Use the karma. Get to 800 and you can vote me down if you disagree.

robertlagrant 5y ago
This is not civil, FYI: > So in essence you don't know what will happen in the future. You have no clue yet you support it blindly, why? > > That is my point. You don't know and you don't give a shit. The long term effects are irrelevant to you.
- shadowlight 5y ago
  That is completely civil. It is just to the point and adamant rather than fake and simpish and overly polite. Whether what I stated is true or untrue, the nature of what I said was not derogatory or insulting. I specifically stated that the person supports something, and in my opinion, blindly. I also stated he doesn't care about something and I ALSO implied most of the population of the world doesn't care EITHER. Those are words that are forceful But civil. You are totally not comprehending the difference between civility and servitude. Learn to put force, power and truth behind your conviction while being civil and not being afraid to harm the other persons precious feelings.
  - robertlagrant 5y ago
    > Learn to put force, power and truth behind your conviction while being civil and not being afraid to harm the other persons precious feelings. Calling them "precious" feelings sort of belies the idea that you're just talking facts in a forceful way. If you struggle to separate your disdain for people who disagree with you then that's a chance to grow, or a chance to dig your heels in. Seems you've made your choice; hopefully one day you'll reverse it.
    - shadowlight 5y ago
      >Calling them "precious" feelings sort of belies the idea that you're just talking facts in a forceful way. Feelings shouldn't be precious. They should be disregarded. When communicating a point, if disdain is felt it should be presented. If it is not felt then it shouldn't be presented. >If you struggle to separate your disdain for people who disagree with you then that's a chance to grow, or a chance to dig your heels in. I hold disdain for certain people. But not for all people who disagree with me. Clearly what you're saying is completely false. Growth to me is not the ability to separate disdain from disagreement. Growth is the ability to not hide your disdain. To express it when it's required. To you I am not expressing disdain. You only perceive it as such because you disdain what I am saying. The reality is, I'm the same as you. I'm quite well off. The difference between us, is that I don't twist reality or morality to justify my sins. I knew you were rich and well off, because I am rich and well off. Why would I disdain someone like me? The only difference between us is that I don't lie to myself.