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Thanks for detailed reply. A bit late, though. I don't intend to return back to normal. I don't wish to exist off of the system. This leaves one option: self-te

by fastly 5y ago

Thanks for detailed reply. A bit late, though. I don't intend to return back to normal. I don't wish to exist off of the system. This leaves one option: self-termination. As per other comment, I find human existence to be disgusting. This is not by any means an acute decision. Years in the making. I ran out of food money a few days ago knowing I'd face this decision yet again.

monkeycantype 5y ago
That's sounds rough. I'll probably agree with you point for point on the terribleness of people, but I take a different view on what it means. We've stumbled to this point, not unstained from the a garden of eden, but from simple ruthless RNA lifeforms at the bottom of the ocean, to the point where can ponder our own existence. To look at ourselves and be disgusted means that within us we have evolved the capacity to desires something better, to believe it would be better to live with kindness and integrity. Generation by generation we are becoming kinder and more peaceful, but it's slow lumpy progress that's going to take centuries. Is there any possibility in your mind that depression and deep unhappiness might mean that only the the terrible things about people are resonating with you and not the good and the potential. If your thinking is solid it then it won't be swayed by a good meal, a good night's sleep, getting somewhere warm, somewhere people are kind, somewhere you can do something kind for someone else. But it might give you a moment of relief, and in that moment you might find that there is a way to live, not off the system, not back to normal but a niche you hadn't thought of where you can live with integrity with less pain. If you're still in seattle, would you be willing to go help these guys feed the hungry tomorrow and feed yourself too: https://seattlefoodnotbombs.org/contact/ https://seattlefoodnotbombs.org/contact/ Email: hello@seattlefoodnotbombs.org Phone: 253-237-6196 or these guys https://www.ugm.org/volunteer/ https://www.ugm.org/volunteer/ : volunteer@ugm.org or (206) 723-0767. If your current perspective is solid it won't be swayed by seeing people working hard to make other people's existence less shitty.

by fastly 5y ago

monkeycantype 5y ago

That's sounds rough. I'll probably agree with you point for point on the terribleness of people, but I take a different view on what it means. We've stumbled to this point, not unstained from the a garden of eden, but from simple ruthless RNA lifeforms at the bottom of the ocean, to the point where can ponder our own existence. To look at ourselves and be disgusted means that within us we have evolved the capacity to desires something better, to believe it would be better to live with kindness and integrity. Generation by generation we are becoming kinder and more peaceful, but it's slow lumpy progress that's going to take centuries. Is there any possibility in your mind that depression and deep unhappiness might mean that only the the terrible things about people are resonating with you and not the good and the potential. If your thinking is solid it then it won't be swayed by a good meal, a good night's sleep, getting somewhere warm, somewhere people are kind, somewhere you can do something kind for someone else. But it might give you a moment of relief, and in that moment you might find that there is a way to live, not off the system, not back to normal but a niche you hadn't thought of where you can live with integrity with less pain. If you're still in seattle, would you be willing to go help these guys feed the hungry tomorrow and feed yourself too: https://seattlefoodnotbombs.org/contact/ https://seattlefoodnotbombs.org/contact/ Email: hello@seattlefoodnotbombs.org Phone: 253-237-6196 or these guys https://www.ugm.org/volunteer/ https://www.ugm.org/volunteer/ : volunteer@ugm.org or (206) 723-0767. If your current perspective is solid it won't be swayed by seeing people working hard to make other people's existence less shitty.