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I think you actually mean FBI. :P CIA only has jurisdiction outside the US. Although, in context of the joke, NSA would make more sense.

vmception 5y ago
It’s not so clear cut and Congress randomly assigns and reduces duties of random agencies. For example, the FBI has global jurisdiction over cyber matters and that agency specifically will send agents physically to other countries to coordinate with local law enforcement, seize assets and affect arrests They’re all watching I don’t think anything will really change until other countries are doing the same to us. Like imagine law enforcement from the House of Saud showing up at your door alongside local US police and they arrest you and eventually ship you off to Saudi Arabia all because a data packet passed through their borders. That’s allot of people’s experience with the US right now.
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Huh, I didn't know FBI investigated all cybercrime. But, yeah, there are all kinds of weird jurisdictional carve-outs for other agencies. FBI = domestic, CIA = international is probably 98% correct, though. "Good enough for government work," as the saying goes, yeah?
  - vmception 5y ago
    Hard to quantify, I just can't rely on that delineation. Congress doesn't even know what laws they pass and isn't scrutinizing like "wait, enthusiasts expect the FBI to do domestic things, unless you rewrite this Defense Spending Bill we're all blocking it from getting out of committee", instead, defense contractors pre-write whatever they want that expands the role of the agency they already have the most contacts with so they land the ensuing contract. There isn't any law or constitutional issue that would add a redundancy to limiting the change of these agency charters. And finally, we just have to assume that these autonomous agencies with $10bn annual budgets are operating professionally within the bounds of their mandates.

vmception 5y ago

It’s not so clear cut and Congress randomly assigns and reduces duties of random agencies. For example, the FBI has global jurisdiction over cyber matters and that agency specifically will send agents physically to other countries to coordinate with local law enforcement, seize assets and affect arrests They’re all watching I don’t think anything will really change until other countries are doing the same to us. Like imagine law enforcement from the House of Saud showing up at your door alongside local US police and they arrest you and eventually ship you off to Saudi Arabia all because a data packet passed through their borders. That’s allot of people’s experience with the US right now.

actually_a_dog 5y ago
Huh, I didn't know FBI investigated all cybercrime. But, yeah, there are all kinds of weird jurisdictional carve-outs for other agencies. FBI = domestic, CIA = international is probably 98% correct, though. "Good enough for government work," as the saying goes, yeah?
- vmception 5y ago
  Hard to quantify, I just can't rely on that delineation. Congress doesn't even know what laws they pass and isn't scrutinizing like "wait, enthusiasts expect the FBI to do domestic things, unless you rewrite this Defense Spending Bill we're all blocking it from getting out of committee", instead, defense contractors pre-write whatever they want that expands the role of the agency they already have the most contacts with so they land the ensuing contract. There isn't any law or constitutional issue that would add a redundancy to limiting the change of these agency charters. And finally, we just have to assume that these autonomous agencies with $10bn annual budgets are operating professionally within the bounds of their mandates.