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> What is your limit on how much money should be "sheltered" by a Roth IRA? This is what I am saying the article is raising! I'd limit it to $10m myself. Seem

> What is your limit on how much money should be "sheltered" by a Roth IRA? This is what I am saying the article is raising! I'd limit it to $10m myself. Seems like that would be enough to retire on. Probably tie it to inflation? What number would you pick? > What about making it easier for normal people to have access to the same IPOs that Thiel had access to? I would be fine with that but it seems like a separate issue?

unstatusthequo 5y ago
How about freedom and no limit? Why limit?
- mlcrypto 5y ago
  HN is full of liberals that hate wealth and want anything you make an excess. That's the beauty of Bitcoin, you can't have what I got
peytoncasper 5y ago
I'm not sure I would pick a number if I am honest, but I can understand that a number probably exists. If this wasn't Thiel but rather someone else who made 60k/yr or 120k/yr, I don't think this would even be a conversation. So what if they turned their Roth IRA into 100 million. In my opinion that is encouraging the right behavior and the intent. Investing 2,000 per year of their wages and trying to be somewhat forward thinking about their retirement. Now there is the open question of if an average person is able to truly analyze such investments, but I think that is a separate issue as well.
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sokoloff 5y ago
I'm fine with limiting additional contributions to the Roth IRA once its value passes some number (and around $10M, indexed to CPI, feels reasonable). I'm not bothered by investments whose value grows beyond that figure, to be honest, mostly because it's not clear what you'd actually do about it without trying to value unrealized positions and more likely compel transactions. (Valuing listed shares is relatively straightforward, but compelling transactions is abhorrent to me.)
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  I would go so far that additional gains above $10 million are exposed to capital gains, as contributions are inconsequential compared to the compounding of the account’s assets at that account value. This is in line with QSBS tax treatment of corporation shares, where if certain conditions are met, there are no capital gains on the first $10 million. https://www.brownadvisory.com/us/theadvisory/qsbs-tax-exemption-valuable-benefit-startup-founders-and-builders https://www.brownadvisory.com/us/theadvisory/qsbs-tax-exempt...
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    Any balance in excess of ten million dollars at end-of-year should be a mandatory distribution. That’s a simple and very fair way to address the Romney-Thiel issue.
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unstatusthequo 5y ago

How about freedom and no limit? Why limit?

mlcrypto 5y ago
HN is full of liberals that hate wealth and want anything you make an excess. That's the beauty of Bitcoin, you can't have what I got

peytoncasper 5y ago

I'm not sure I would pick a number if I am honest, but I can understand that a number probably exists. If this wasn't Thiel but rather someone else who made 60k/yr or 120k/yr, I don't think this would even be a conversation. So what if they turned their Roth IRA into 100 million. In my opinion that is encouraging the right behavior and the intent. Investing 2,000 per year of their wages and trying to be somewhat forward thinking about their retirement. Now there is the open question of if an average person is able to truly analyze such investments, but I think that is a separate issue as well.

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sokoloff 5y ago

I'm fine with limiting additional contributions to the Roth IRA once its value passes some number (and around $10M, indexed to CPI, feels reasonable). I'm not bothered by investments whose value grows beyond that figure, to be honest, mostly because it's not clear what you'd actually do about it without trying to value unrealized positions and more likely compel transactions. (Valuing listed shares is relatively straightforward, but compelling transactions is abhorrent to me.)

toomuchtodo 5y ago
I would go so far that additional gains above $10 million are exposed to capital gains, as contributions are inconsequential compared to the compounding of the account’s assets at that account value. This is in line with QSBS tax treatment of corporation shares, where if certain conditions are met, there are no capital gains on the first $10 million. https://www.brownadvisory.com/us/theadvisory/qsbs-tax-exemption-valuable-benefit-startup-founders-and-builders https://www.brownadvisory.com/us/theadvisory/qsbs-tax-exempt...
- jeffbee 5y ago
  Any balance in excess of ten million dollars at end-of-year should be a mandatory distribution. That’s a simple and very fair way to address the Romney-Thiel issue.
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