> In order to get 1 calorie of meat, you need to use 7-10 calories of plants. But where does this counting of calories come from? The article is talking about

> In order to get 1 calorie of meat, you need to use 7-10 calories of plants. But where does this counting of calories come from? The article is talking about proteins. It says "the production of one animal protein requires 7 to 10 plant proteins" (my underlining). > So by necessity, if you eat 1 calorie of meat, you are producing (at least) 7-10x the suffering relative to eating 1 calorie of plants, since 7-10x as much plant mass (and hence plants) needed to suffer to create the meat. So, when you say "7-10x as much plant mass (hence plants)", you mean that 1 unit of plant mass = 1 plant, or did I wilfully misunderstand you again? > I'm going to stop responding at this point because I'm not sure how else I can explain this. You can explain it if you get the units right. Are we talking of proteins, calories, or units of suffering? What are we counting exactly? Maybe try to explain that?