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Police Arrest Three for Posting 10 Minute Movie Summaries on YouTube

39 points by curmudgeon22 5y ago

phendrenad2 5y ago
So weird that the post focuses on how much revenue the movie industry could lose from these short movies, and claims that the movies are designed to discourage people from watching the movies. So what? All of capitalism is predicated on the idea of making something that takes market share away from someone else. The real issue here is copyright infringement, I can't see how a 10-minute version of a movie would fall into fair use. So they need to adapt and make their own fake content (with claymation or puppets or something). IANAL.
nelsondev 5y ago
Reminds me of the early days of pirating music. Customers are expressing a desire they want their entertainment in a different format; Rights holders crack down on infringement; No one wins Instead, the industry should adapt to customer desires, and find a way to make money off of “fast movies”, rather than forbidding customers from enjoying the content how they please.
- avaldes 5y ago
  Isn't weird though that Quibi failed so hard to capitalize that
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Different ten minute content.
techbio 5y ago
> "Police [in Japan] Arrest Three..."
- Pet_Ant 5y ago
  It's not in the original title nor is it clear which country we should be presuming otherwise to justify editorialising.
  - techbio 5y ago
    There are many other jurisdictions the story could be relevant to but isn't. "Police" is not (yet) a global institution. Also: Editorializing? It's literally in the first sentence of the article.
    - Jcowell 5y ago
      Exactly , without context I suspect this comment section to devolve into discussion about US copyright law which, while fun to read, should be steered towards Japanese Copyright law. The context being in the title would absolutely help that.
grawprog 5y ago
>Most movie companies require viewers to invest 90 minutes or longer to absorb their theatrical works in the way they were intended but this method of presenting a story is reportedly being undermined. >These are heavily edited copies of mainstream movies that aim to tell the whole story (complete with spoilers) within a very short period, often inside just 10 minutes. >“Fast movies including spoilers would discourage viewers from watching the original films and thus have a serious adverse effect on the right holders.” If people are choosing to watch a 10 minute summary of a movie rather than a movie, tells me chances are they were probably not ever going to pay for the movie anyway, or the movie itself is full of 80 minutes of bullshit not worth watching.
- TillE 5y ago
  I've certainly read movie synopses instead of watching them, mainly to have some idea of what other people are talking about online. But 10 minutes is an odd length, it seems too long for simply conveying necessary details and highlights, but far too short an edit to be anything like a substitute for watching the movie.
  - tannedNerd 5y ago
    10 minutes is the rule of thumb to maximize profits on YouTube.
    - airhead969 5y ago
      rule-of-thumb* Eliminating hyphens is some linguistic fashion pandemic.
      - grawprog 5y ago
        Not to get into a pedantic argument about grammar and such, but seeing as writing is a form of communication, does writing rule of thumb vs rule-of-thumb provide any more or less information to the reader? I would pronounce both of those the same out loud, I read both of those the same in my mind. Hyphens in places like that are a piece of punctuation that provide no real extra information or purpose, but clutter the sentence with symbols. Punctuation exists to provide missing information to a reader. What information do hyphens provide in that situation that is necessary for me or other readers to understand what the commenter intended?
jokethrowaway 5y ago
This is a great idea, I'll wait for similar summaries to popup on bitchute
akomtu 5y ago
They should do the same with popular news. Take any report and complement it with facts the reporter omitted.
- airhead969 5y ago
  Why bother helping corrupt mainstream media or losers like TYT improve their (lack of) journalism? https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1407205648711012353 https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/14072056487110123... Why not just watch TJDS and Grayzone?
airhead969 5y ago
To be congruent: Better throw away all hip-hop music and anything that's ever been resampled. It's piracy, after all! Don't copy that floppy!
bleah1000 5y ago
As I understand it, Japan doesn't have any fair use provisions for copyright. So this is clearly illegal there. I do thinks it's stupid that anybody would bother to punish people who do this kind of thing though.

39 points by curmudgeon22 5y ago

So weird that the post focuses on how much revenue the movie industry could lose from these short movies, and claims that the movies are designed to discourage people from watching the movies. So what? All of capitalism is predicated on the idea of making something that takes market share away from someone else. The real issue here is copyright infringement, I can't see how a 10-minute version of a movie would fall into fair use. So they need to adapt and make their own fake content (with claymation or puppets or something). IANAL.

nelsondev 5y ago

Reminds me of the early days of pirating music. Customers are expressing a desire they want their entertainment in a different format; Rights holders crack down on infringement; No one wins Instead, the industry should adapt to customer desires, and find a way to make money off of “fast movies”, rather than forbidding customers from enjoying the content how they please.

avaldes 5y ago
Isn't weird though that Quibi failed so hard to capitalize that
- atatatat 5y ago
  Different ten minute content.

techbio 5y ago

> "Police [in Japan] Arrest Three..."

Pet_Ant 5y ago
It's not in the original title nor is it clear which country we should be presuming otherwise to justify editorialising.
- techbio 5y ago
  There are many other jurisdictions the story could be relevant to but isn't. "Police" is not (yet) a global institution. Also: Editorializing? It's literally in the first sentence of the article.
  - Jcowell 5y ago
    Exactly , without context I suspect this comment section to devolve into discussion about US copyright law which, while fun to read, should be steered towards Japanese Copyright law. The context being in the title would absolutely help that.

grawprog 5y ago

>Most movie companies require viewers to invest 90 minutes or longer to absorb their theatrical works in the way they were intended but this method of presenting a story is reportedly being undermined. >These are heavily edited copies of mainstream movies that aim to tell the whole story (complete with spoilers) within a very short period, often inside just 10 minutes. >“Fast movies including spoilers would discourage viewers from watching the original films and thus have a serious adverse effect on the right holders.” If people are choosing to watch a 10 minute summary of a movie rather than a movie, tells me chances are they were probably not ever going to pay for the movie anyway, or the movie itself is full of 80 minutes of bullshit not worth watching.

TillE 5y ago
I've certainly read movie synopses instead of watching them, mainly to have some idea of what other people are talking about online. But 10 minutes is an odd length, it seems too long for simply conveying necessary details and highlights, but far too short an edit to be anything like a substitute for watching the movie.
- tannedNerd 5y ago
  10 minutes is the rule of thumb to maximize profits on YouTube.
  - airhead969 5y ago
    rule-of-thumb* Eliminating hyphens is some linguistic fashion pandemic.
    - grawprog 5y ago
      Not to get into a pedantic argument about grammar and such, but seeing as writing is a form of communication, does writing rule of thumb vs rule-of-thumb provide any more or less information to the reader? I would pronounce both of those the same out loud, I read both of those the same in my mind. Hyphens in places like that are a piece of punctuation that provide no real extra information or purpose, but clutter the sentence with symbols. Punctuation exists to provide missing information to a reader. What information do hyphens provide in that situation that is necessary for me or other readers to understand what the commenter intended?

jokethrowaway 5y ago

This is a great idea, I'll wait for similar summaries to popup on bitchute

akomtu 5y ago

They should do the same with popular news. Take any report and complement it with facts the reporter omitted.

airhead969 5y ago
Why bother helping corrupt mainstream media or losers like TYT improve their (lack of) journalism? https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1407205648711012353 https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/14072056487110123... Why not just watch TJDS and Grayzone?

airhead969 5y ago

To be congruent: Better throw away all hip-hop music and anything that's ever been resampled. It's piracy, after all! Don't copy that floppy!

bleah1000 5y ago

As I understand it, Japan doesn't have any fair use provisions for copyright. So this is clearly illegal there. I do thinks it's stupid that anybody would bother to punish people who do this kind of thing though.