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This, again, is like the local phone company being forced to block your ability to call people because of an assertion that the person being blocked has infring

This, again, is like the local phone company being forced to block your ability to call people because of an assertion that the person being blocked has infringed on their copyright. It's clear that the phone company has nothing to do with the situation and it's a massive legal overreach to compel them to get involved. But media megacorps have never cared about logic or sanity. They make their own reality with their piles of money and lawyers.

lugged 5y ago
They don't call them the mafiaa [1] for nothin. [1] http://mafiaa.org/ http://mafiaa.org/
alerighi 5y ago
And yet is what they do in my country to “close” piracy sites: ask the national internet providers to block the resolution on that domains. Of course in most situations you can just change the DNS to 1.1.1.1, or if the provider redirects all DNS request to their server just use DNS over HTTPS…
- sethgecko 5y ago
  Until Sony sues Cloudflare/Google etc
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    I'd love to see that for the entertainment value alone!
- RamRodification 5y ago
  > in most situations you can just change the DNS to 1.1.1.1 Or maybe 9.9.9.9 (quad9)! :)
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
    use 9.9.9.11 for ECS support
ajsnigrutin 5y ago
I mean.. technically is not "blocking your ability to call", but just unlisting them from their phonebook and phone-number-information-service. But in the end, this means that people will start using the alternatives more.... hopefully.
bwoodcock 5y ago
No, actually, that was where things stood BEFORE this injunction. The phone company is an intermediary party, with a relationship to at least one of the parties to an alleged infringement. The whole point of this injunction is that it applies to us as a party with NO relationship to the alleged infringing parties. It relies upon a German law that says that uninvolved bystanders are also liable.

lugged 5y ago

They don't call them the mafiaa [1] for nothin. [1] http://mafiaa.org/ http://mafiaa.org/

alerighi 5y ago

And yet is what they do in my country to “close” piracy sites: ask the national internet providers to block the resolution on that domains. Of course in most situations you can just change the DNS to 1.1.1.1, or if the provider redirects all DNS request to their server just use DNS over HTTPS…

sethgecko 5y ago
Until Sony sues Cloudflare/Google etc
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  I'd love to see that for the entertainment value alone!
RamRodification 5y ago
> in most situations you can just change the DNS to 1.1.1.1 Or maybe 9.9.9.9 (quad9)! :)
- ThatMedicIsASpy 5y ago
  use 9.9.9.11 for ECS support

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

I mean.. technically is not "blocking your ability to call", but just unlisting them from their phonebook and phone-number-information-service. But in the end, this means that people will start using the alternatives more.... hopefully.

bwoodcock 5y ago

No, actually, that was where things stood BEFORE this injunction. The phone company is an intermediary party, with a relationship to at least one of the parties to an alleged infringement. The whole point of this injunction is that it applies to us as a party with NO relationship to the alleged infringing parties. It relies upon a German law that says that uninvolved bystanders are also liable.