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Do you think they finally finished the control panel transition? Window 10's control panel thing feels like it was stopped halfway through development, so they

Do you think they finally finished the control panel transition? Window 10's control panel thing feels like it was stopped halfway through development, so they left the old stuff in there but made it hard to access. Unfortunately most of the time when you need to change something it's not on the new control panel so you have to dig for the old one instead. When Windows 10 was first released I figured they would finish up the new control panel and deprecate the old one, but instead several years have passed with no progress whatsoever on the problem and it is still a pain point with Windows 10. Certainly it can't be that hard to copy over the missing features? Did the control panel team quit en-masse in 2015?

freeone3000 5y ago
Control panel allowed for third-party add-ins. settings doesn't. Until CPLs are migrated, Control Panel stays
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  wasnt a hierarchical, folder-like control panel more usable anyway? They just needed to figure out a more sane hierarchy.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
  But there are still non-third-party things in Control Panel. Microsoft hasn't moved all their own settings over to Settings.
  - layer8 5y ago
    Third-party add-ins add additional tabs to Microsoft’s Control Panel items. Microsoft can’t just remove them.
    - nxc18 5y ago
      If Microsoft really wanted to, they could find a way to squeeze the old panels into the new UI. They can run x86 binaries on ARM, and all sorts of other tricks, its not like they lack the engineering talent. They also do loads of shims/special treatments for specific apps based on a compatibility database. Worst case scenario, they could rewrite the top ~100 most common ones and make “Legacy Control Panel” an optional feature that is off by default. It has been 5+ years since Windows 10 came out, longer since 8, Microsoft really doesn’t need people making excuses for them.
    - SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
      They could remove (or just hide) them by default, if no third-party add-ins are installed. But they can't do that because not all of the settings are exposed by the new Settings screen.
pvg 5y ago
When Windows 10 was first released I figured they would finish up the new control panel and deprecate the old one Some of them go back to Win2k/NT and if you start looking through them carefully, you'll probably notice the sediment layers of just about every major Windows release. I doubt that's going to change in Win 11. That said 'no progress whatsoever' is not quite accurate, most of the significant Win 10 updates have expanded what the new control panels can do.
- SamuelAdams 5y ago
  The fun thing is too that a lot of old Win2k/NT tools / layers are the source of many security vulnerabilities. An example is font rendering in the kernel, was intended to be a performance increase back in maybe 3.1? Ended up becoming a major pain point from a security perspective.

freeone3000 5y ago

Control panel allowed for third-party add-ins. settings doesn't. Until CPLs are migrated, Control Panel stays

cblconfederate 5y ago
wasnt a hierarchical, folder-like control panel more usable anyway? They just needed to figure out a more sane hierarchy.
SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
But there are still non-third-party things in Control Panel. Microsoft hasn't moved all their own settings over to Settings.
- layer8 5y ago
  Third-party add-ins add additional tabs to Microsoft’s Control Panel items. Microsoft can’t just remove them.
  - nxc18 5y ago
    If Microsoft really wanted to, they could find a way to squeeze the old panels into the new UI. They can run x86 binaries on ARM, and all sorts of other tricks, its not like they lack the engineering talent. They also do loads of shims/special treatments for specific apps based on a compatibility database. Worst case scenario, they could rewrite the top ~100 most common ones and make “Legacy Control Panel” an optional feature that is off by default. It has been 5+ years since Windows 10 came out, longer since 8, Microsoft really doesn’t need people making excuses for them.
  - SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
    They could remove (or just hide) them by default, if no third-party add-ins are installed. But they can't do that because not all of the settings are exposed by the new Settings screen.

pvg 5y ago

When Windows 10 was first released I figured they would finish up the new control panel and deprecate the old one Some of them go back to Win2k/NT and if you start looking through them carefully, you'll probably notice the sediment layers of just about every major Windows release. I doubt that's going to change in Win 11. That said 'no progress whatsoever' is not quite accurate, most of the significant Win 10 updates have expanded what the new control panels can do.

SamuelAdams 5y ago
The fun thing is too that a lot of old Win2k/NT tools / layers are the source of many security vulnerabilities. An example is font rendering in the kernel, was intended to be a performance increase back in maybe 3.1? Ended up becoming a major pain point from a security perspective.