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This has become enough of an issue here in the Seattle metro area that the King County prosecutor's office has a special taskforce, in conjunction with several

This has become enough of an issue here in the Seattle metro area that the King County prosecutor's office has a special taskforce, in conjunction with several neighboring jurisdictions. It happens in the city, the suburbs, and even at busy trailheads. It's particularly concerning because some folks are beginning to take matters into their own hands[1]. 1. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/man-accused-of-shooting-suspected-catalytic-converter-thief-in-lakewood/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/man-accused-...

jtbayly 5y ago
What do you expect people to do if the civil magistrate decides not to protect people's life and property?
- mikestew 5y ago
  What do I expect people to do? Not drag people behind a truck over a car part. What, you think that’s reasonable? Or is it just the shooting that you don’t find to be over the top?
  - jtbayly 5y ago
    Taking things into their own hands is literally all that is left, unless you are a pacifist. I never made any statement about how people should take it into their own hands or what degree was acceptable or over what. Nor did I say anything about shootings being acceptable. So take your straw man out of here. What would you do is if somebody was taking $1500 of yours along with your ability to provide for yourself for several days while your vehicle is out of commission? (Or is it only when the government does that through civil asset forfeiture that you have a problem with it? Two can play at this game, you know.) Remember, “call the police” isn’t an option.
    - mikestew 5y ago
      So take your straw man out of here. No straw man, it was in the referenced article, which one might assume to be the context of your comment. But if you’re just making a random, out-of-context statement, you’ll have to allow that others are keeping up with the conversation.
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  - foobar33333 5y ago
    Seems like a reasonable response from someone who sleeps in their car and likely can't afford to replace the part being stolen. And every news article of someone being shot or crushed as the jack fails makes it a little less likely someone else will try it. Ideally the police would crack down hard on theft to prevent individuals needing to deal with it.

jtbayly 5y ago

What do you expect people to do if the civil magistrate decides not to protect people's life and property?

mikestew 5y ago
What do I expect people to do? Not drag people behind a truck over a car part. What, you think that’s reasonable? Or is it just the shooting that you don’t find to be over the top?
- jtbayly 5y ago
  Taking things into their own hands is literally all that is left, unless you are a pacifist. I never made any statement about how people should take it into their own hands or what degree was acceptable or over what. Nor did I say anything about shootings being acceptable. So take your straw man out of here. What would you do is if somebody was taking $1500 of yours along with your ability to provide for yourself for several days while your vehicle is out of commission? (Or is it only when the government does that through civil asset forfeiture that you have a problem with it? Two can play at this game, you know.) Remember, “call the police” isn’t an option.
  - mikestew 5y ago
    So take your straw man out of here. No straw man, it was in the referenced article, which one might assume to be the context of your comment. But if you’re just making a random, out-of-context statement, you’ll have to allow that others are keeping up with the conversation.
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- foobar33333 5y ago
  Seems like a reasonable response from someone who sleeps in their car and likely can't afford to replace the part being stolen. And every news article of someone being shot or crushed as the jack fails makes it a little less likely someone else will try it. Ideally the police would crack down hard on theft to prevent individuals needing to deal with it.