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Omitting and spinning facts indeed. You're simply pushing your own narrative here so aren't you making yourself part of the problem?

textgel 5y ago
Seems they are adding facts that have been missed. Is there a particular reason you want these facts suppressed?
- Steltek 5y ago
  LOL. "And how long have you been beating your wife?" babesh is adding facts, mixed with pure opinion, of his own choosing to also further a narrative. Is "Defund the police has caused skyrocketing property crime and violent crime." a verified (or even provable) fact? If so, what was omitted from that statement that would have made it less biased. And ultimately, how is he not committing the same sin as corporate media?
  - babesh 5y ago
    https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-these-stores-shoplifting-is-plaguing-residents-stores-in-san-francisco/ https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-... https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Fra... https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-police-funding-increase-as-crime-skyrockets https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-... Which facts would you like to dispute? What are you calling an opinion?
    - Steltek 5y ago
      > retail executives, police officers and city officials have attributed the surge to Proposition 47, a 2014 ballot measure that reclassified nonviolent larceny as a misdemeanor Your sources don't even support your opinion/narrative? If anything, I'm afraid your claim to the high ground has worsened.
      - textgel 5y ago
        You're lying again. > In July, the Los Angeles City Council voted to slash $150 million from the LAPD budget. > Amid the wave of violent crime, Los Angeles voted to increase police funding.The Los Angeles County Metro voted to increase police funding by $36 million. > The city was even forced to reinstate its gun violence task force after disbanding the Gun Violence Reduction Team (GVRT) only months earlier. I'm genuinely curious. Do you think if you just scream something loudly and hysterically enough that it will become true? Or do you have some sort of higher goal that you feel can only be achieved by lying to people and that doing so is therefore justified? Or is it simply just malice?
      - babesh 5y ago
        Apparently you can’t read because it isn’t just because it is a misdemeanor but because of the refusal of Chesa Boudin to prosecute. Look who is picking and choosing which facts to ignore and choosing to spin a narrative. Go watch all the news even of left sided news. There are a lot of complaints about how businesses and communities are hurt. There are increasing calls to fund the police and some communities are starting to do that. Even Chesa Boudin is now saying that businesses need to protected. Even London Breed is saying the same. They just arrested a person who was on a serial shoplifting spree. Police were complaining that they would arrest people and the DA would just let them free. https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-from-viral-video-at-san-francisco-walgreens-arrested-for-spree-of-thefts/ar-AALk3bE https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-fr... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts-surging-crime-drugs-and-homelessness-as-it-tries-to-bounce-back-from-covid-19/ar-AALmLGx https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts... Here is the shoplifter that they finally arrested after letting shoplifting go on for the past year.
        babesh 5y ago
        https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/us/defund-police-crime-spike/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/us/defund-police-crime-spike/... “ Homicides and aggravated assaults in the city has increased over the last two years. Year to date, homicide up 26.5 percent over 2020, up 44.9 percent over 2019. Aggravated assault is up 12.8 percent year over year, and 11.3 percent over 2019. Overall violent crime is up year-over-year 5.8 percent, driven by homicide and aggravated assault numbers.”
  - textgel 5y ago
    Which facts is it he's left out? You don't get to just lie and say he's doing it without stating which is being left out. So given that you are baselessly attacking him, and the only thing that drew you to him was the facts he stated; clearly you don't want him stating them. So again. I ask, why do you want those facts suppressed? And why are you being evasive about answering the question?
babesh 5y ago
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-held-up-gunpoint-interview-16281457.php https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-... Attempted robbery of reporters in front of Oakland City Hall in broad daylight while the reporters were interviewing a cop about Oakland supervisors defunding the police and shifting resources to his crime prevention division.

textgel 5y ago

Seems they are adding facts that have been missed. Is there a particular reason you want these facts suppressed?

Steltek 5y ago
LOL. "And how long have you been beating your wife?" babesh is adding facts, mixed with pure opinion, of his own choosing to also further a narrative. Is "Defund the police has caused skyrocketing property crime and violent crime." a verified (or even provable) fact? If so, what was omitted from that statement that would have made it less biased. And ultimately, how is he not committing the same sin as corporate media?
- babesh 5y ago
  https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-these-stores-shoplifting-is-plaguing-residents-stores-in-san-francisco/ https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-... https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Fra... https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-police-funding-increase-as-crime-skyrockets https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-... Which facts would you like to dispute? What are you calling an opinion?
  - Steltek 5y ago
    > retail executives, police officers and city officials have attributed the surge to Proposition 47, a 2014 ballot measure that reclassified nonviolent larceny as a misdemeanor Your sources don't even support your opinion/narrative? If anything, I'm afraid your claim to the high ground has worsened.
    - textgel 5y ago
      You're lying again. > In July, the Los Angeles City Council voted to slash $150 million from the LAPD budget. > Amid the wave of violent crime, Los Angeles voted to increase police funding.The Los Angeles County Metro voted to increase police funding by $36 million. > The city was even forced to reinstate its gun violence task force after disbanding the Gun Violence Reduction Team (GVRT) only months earlier. I'm genuinely curious. Do you think if you just scream something loudly and hysterically enough that it will become true? Or do you have some sort of higher goal that you feel can only be achieved by lying to people and that doing so is therefore justified? Or is it simply just malice?
    - babesh 5y ago
      Apparently you can’t read because it isn’t just because it is a misdemeanor but because of the refusal of Chesa Boudin to prosecute. Look who is picking and choosing which facts to ignore and choosing to spin a narrative. Go watch all the news even of left sided news. There are a lot of complaints about how businesses and communities are hurt. There are increasing calls to fund the police and some communities are starting to do that. Even Chesa Boudin is now saying that businesses need to protected. Even London Breed is saying the same. They just arrested a person who was on a serial shoplifting spree. Police were complaining that they would arrest people and the DA would just let them free. https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-from-viral-video-at-san-francisco-walgreens-arrested-for-spree-of-thefts/ar-AALk3bE https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-fr... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts-surging-crime-drugs-and-homelessness-as-it-tries-to-bounce-back-from-covid-19/ar-AALmLGx https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts... Here is the shoplifter that they finally arrested after letting shoplifting go on for the past year.
      - babesh 5y ago
        https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/us/defund-police-crime-spike/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/us/defund-police-crime-spike/... “ Homicides and aggravated assaults in the city has increased over the last two years. Year to date, homicide up 26.5 percent over 2020, up 44.9 percent over 2019. Aggravated assault is up 12.8 percent year over year, and 11.3 percent over 2019. Overall violent crime is up year-over-year 5.8 percent, driven by homicide and aggravated assault numbers.”
- textgel 5y ago
  Which facts is it he's left out? You don't get to just lie and say he's doing it without stating which is being left out. So given that you are baselessly attacking him, and the only thing that drew you to him was the facts he stated; clearly you don't want him stating them. So again. I ask, why do you want those facts suppressed? And why are you being evasive about answering the question?

babesh 5y ago

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-held-up-gunpoint-interview-16281457.php https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-... Attempted robbery of reporters in front of Oakland City Hall in broad daylight while the reporters were interviewing a cop about Oakland supervisors defunding the police and shifting resources to his crime prevention division.