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Now is the time to abandon Windows. I don't know what can replace it right now, for non-technical users, but the market is ready for an OS that isn't tied to h

Now is the time to abandon Windows. I don't know what can replace it right now, for non-technical users, but the market is ready for an OS that isn't tied to hardware (MacOS) and doesn't require as much expertise or effort as Linux variants (especially when running specific software). Microsoft is here with Windows 11, integrating teams into the OS, because they want to shill it, not because it's what users want. They are making claims about it being more performant, but that's hard to imagine when considering their promises for backwards compatibility. Windows is a bloated nuisance OS that only stays around because of legacy software and DirectX. The folks at Microsoft who work on Windows have demonstrated for decades now that they care more about implementing new features than they care about user experience, consistency, and reliability. Here comes another UI overhaul instead of simply fixing the trash menus and numerous other problems the OS has. Why? It's time to move on from Windows.

seniorThrowaway 5y ago
>Windows is a bloated nuisance OS that only stays around because of legacy software and DirectX The reason it stays around is because of it's entrenched market share at very large enterprises. Until there is a replacement for managing huge numbers of end user devices centrally that is as easy or easier then Active Directory that won't change.
- bun_at_work 5y ago
  Ah yeah, AD is another reason it stays around, however, like DirectX, it can be replaced. It's a ripe market opportunity.
  - imbnwa 5y ago
    Replacing DX is a tall order
nsriv 5y ago
I think Teams integration is more of an acknowledgement that video-calling and workplace collaboration is a default usecase for desktop computing (like email, calendar, calculator, text editing). >They are making claims about it being more performant, but that's hard to imagine when considering their promises for backwards compatibility. I can run Windows 95 programs on Windows 10, not sure where the knock is coming from on backwards compatibility. >Here comes another UI overhaul instead of simply fixing the trash menus From the leaked ISO, the menus are much improved and overhauled. Sure, I want a modern tabbed File Explorer too, but it's clearly being worked on.
- bun_at_work 5y ago
  The knock on backwards compatibility isn't a complaint about backwards compatibility, per se. It's about how so much of the OS is held back due to that support for old software. The trash menus I'm referring to, while the language is a bit strong, are how there is no unified design throughout the OS. It reeks of implementing new features halfway and rushing it out, since most of what the user sees is now "new".
  - imbnwa 5y ago
    Their screenshots only show the cool new bling, I wanna see all the instances where its still the same Win2K UI
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yellowfish 5y ago
Windows works well enough for me it's just a tool
jodrellblank 5y ago
> "Now is the time to abandon Windows. I don't know what can replace it right now, for non-technical users" ??? Complaint: Microsoft have spent years adding many features and even people with no expertise can use it. This is, somehow, bad. Suggested course of action: Abandon it. Complaint: There is nothing else comparable, because everything else has fewer features is harder to use, and can't run software people want to run. > "the market is ready" The market is still giving money to Microsoft hand over fist. Consumers have basically run to Android phones, iPads, Chromebooks, Kindles, Alexa devices, macBooks, and away from desktops entirely. What are you looking at which suggests it's ready for a change of consumer desktop/laptop OS?

seniorThrowaway 5y ago

>Windows is a bloated nuisance OS that only stays around because of legacy software and DirectX The reason it stays around is because of it's entrenched market share at very large enterprises. Until there is a replacement for managing huge numbers of end user devices centrally that is as easy or easier then Active Directory that won't change.

bun_at_work 5y ago
Ah yeah, AD is another reason it stays around, however, like DirectX, it can be replaced. It's a ripe market opportunity.
- imbnwa 5y ago
  Replacing DX is a tall order

nsriv 5y ago

I think Teams integration is more of an acknowledgement that video-calling and workplace collaboration is a default usecase for desktop computing (like email, calendar, calculator, text editing). >They are making claims about it being more performant, but that's hard to imagine when considering their promises for backwards compatibility. I can run Windows 95 programs on Windows 10, not sure where the knock is coming from on backwards compatibility. >Here comes another UI overhaul instead of simply fixing the trash menus From the leaked ISO, the menus are much improved and overhauled. Sure, I want a modern tabbed File Explorer too, but it's clearly being worked on.

bun_at_work 5y ago
The knock on backwards compatibility isn't a complaint about backwards compatibility, per se. It's about how so much of the OS is held back due to that support for old software. The trash menus I'm referring to, while the language is a bit strong, are how there is no unified design throughout the OS. It reeks of implementing new features halfway and rushing it out, since most of what the user sees is now "new".
- imbnwa 5y ago
  Their screenshots only show the cool new bling, I wanna see all the instances where its still the same Win2K UI

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yellowfish 5y ago

Windows works well enough for me it's just a tool

jodrellblank 5y ago

> "Now is the time to abandon Windows. I don't know what can replace it right now, for non-technical users" ??? Complaint: Microsoft have spent years adding many features and even people with no expertise can use it. This is, somehow, bad. Suggested course of action: Abandon it. Complaint: There is nothing else comparable, because everything else has fewer features is harder to use, and can't run software people want to run. > "the market is ready" The market is still giving money to Microsoft hand over fist. Consumers have basically run to Android phones, iPads, Chromebooks, Kindles, Alexa devices, macBooks, and away from desktops entirely. What are you looking at which suggests it's ready for a change of consumer desktop/laptop OS?