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Obviously, but can we move on already? Covid culture is so strange to me. It’s like some people want to cling to Covid and virtue signal still wearing a mask wh
by nodesocket 5y ago
Obviously, but can we move on already? Covid culture is so strange to me. It’s like some people want to cling to Covid and virtue signal still wearing a mask when they are vaccinated. Perhaps a bit of Stockholm syndrome?
- weird-eye-issue 5y agoVaccines aren't 100% effective. Some are closer to 50%. Wearing a mask isn't that much of a sacrifice especially indoors.
- nodesocket 5y agoI don’t know where you are getting your information from, but Pfizer: 95 percent efficacy in preventing an infection in people with no prior infections. Moderna: 94.1 percent.
- paralelogram 5y agohttps://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-sin... A large phase 3 trial in Brazil showed that two doses, administered at an interval of 14 days, had an efficacy of 51% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection, 100% against severe COVID-19, and 100% against hospitalization starting 14 days after receiving the second dose. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines aren't easily available outside of "first world" countries because of vaccine nationalism.
- weird-eye-issue 5y agoI got the Pfizer vaccine but it isn't available everywhere. Right now I'm in Thailand. The vaccines here (Sinovac and Astra) are closer to 50% effective from my understanding. Also I just want to point out 95% is not 100% either. Even at 95% I don't mind wearing a mask indoors if I'm next to other people.
- gregorymichael 5y ago95% effective in preventing Covid but 100% effective at preventing severe Covid. If you shoot coronavirus up your nose, there's a 5% chance your body develops Covid-19. But even then, there's a 0% chance that you will die or require hospitalization because of it.
- weird-eye-issue 5y agoI'm not worried that I'll get a severe case of covid. I'm worried I'll pass it to somebody who will.
- jfengel 5y agoZero percent is a very strong statement to make. I've got two close friends, one of whom has diabetes, the other has cystic fibrosis. Neither of these is common enough to show up significantly in the testing. Both conditions predispose to a very, very bad outcome if they do get sick without the vaccine. With the vaccine... I don't know. I don't think the testing has enough information to tell me. But it seems to me that there's a 5% chance of the disease getting a chance to start, and have its effect amplified by the pre-existing conditions. Therefore, I'm wearing a mask right now, on top of being vaccinated. It probably won't help. A year from now, the odds are probably something under .01% that it makes any difference. But I don't like those odds, and the mask is a very small imposition. I'm just saying that there's a big difference between 0.01% and 0%. I don't base my entire life on those almost-but-not-quite-zero odds, which would almost certainly become exhausting if I gave them a second thought. But in this case I have had to give it lots of thought, and the cost is small.
- ppf 5y agoRemoving the major source of non-verbal social cues, and an essential element of infant and child development, for an extended period, seems like it will be a huge sacrifice for a healthy society. Also - I find it incredible that the effectiveness against viral infection of putting a piece of cloth over your face is favourably compared to the effectiveness of a vaccine.
- weird-eye-issue 5y agoI'm not comparing the effectiveness between the two. I'm saying I do both.