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Well at least we agree on one tiny part of the above. I guess I was a bit callous in my reply. This news has set of a somewhat violent chain reaction in Canada.

Well at least we agree on one tiny part of the above. I guess I was a bit callous in my reply. This news has set of a somewhat violent chain reaction in Canada. I'm glad the news came out but lately I am disturbed how much "news" is just overhyping and conveniently lacking details in order to drive ad revenue, and this is the perfect story for that. Many people who I speak to are under the assumption that there was government run mass children murdering squads killing native American children execution style. I am very sympathetic to the atrocities native American people went through _and it continues to this day_. Children are still taken from their homes today via child services meanwhile education on reserves is under funded making native children on reserves far more likely to wind up in foster homes. What do we do to fix it? We're protesting against figures in the past and doing nothing today because we all think it's over.

ipaddr 5y ago
The news seems to be craving/inventing chaos since covid. Each crisis pushes the last out of the spotlight. It's cycling so quickly it has given rise to outrage culture. The media are dumping some moral crisis' on the viewer and trying to extract whatever emotion the view has left. People are confused and want to attack anything. Perhaps this is covid / lockdown induced.
- krapp 5y ago
  Are you implying that the Canadian news industry only covered this story, or even manufactured it, in order to extract rage-clicks from their viewers... as opposed to covering it because it happened and was newsworthy? Or that public outrage is merely the result of people being confused and punch-drunk from the psychological toll of the constant media news cycle... as opposed to an understandable reaction to the discovery of mass indigenous child graves at a residential school? I can understand cynicism when it comes to the media but writing this off as outrage culture and essentially "fake news" seems like a bridge too far. I'm sure it's good for karma though.
  - beerandt 5y ago
    It's the sudden urgency and staged-shock that's the problem. Framing it as the most important story for you to read today, even though it's been known and newsworthy for years, and 50% of the text was copied from the story that ran on page 16F 10 years ago. Doing a few 10'x10' scans with GPR (which should never be trusted without ground truthing confirmation), then extrapolating it across a football field, and getting numbers that roughly agree with previous estimates isn't a breaking news update.
    - lostlogin 5y ago
      > It's the sudden urgency and staged-shock that's the problem. That’s a problem, sure. But I find the body count rather more alarming.
      - beerandt 5y ago
        That's my point- there's no reason to wake up today and be shocked that TB used to kill a lot of people, including kids. If I found a plantation house with 1000's of bodies buried in the yard, and forensic evidence shows most died a violent death, in a pattern of killings that repeated itself for decades... would you be alarmed at the body count at Arlington? Then why are you alarmed at the body count of a overgrown cemetery "found" where it was expected to be found, and containing roughly the same number of graves expected?
        lostlogin 5y ago
        > would you be alarmed at the body count at Arlington? Alarmed isn’t quite the right word. But it’s likely close. > Then why are you alarmed at the body count of a overgrown cemetery "found" where it was expected to be found, and containing roughly the same number of graves expected? I had no idea this was a thing or that any schooling system regularly buried children.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    Not fake news, well known facts being presented as news. The volume has been turned up to 10 and the media wants you to react. To get angry. To be controlled. Remember George Floyd? All of that stuff is still happening but the protests have moved on. The calls to defund have changed. This social movement is stalled.. until the next cycle. But day to day injustice keeps happening. Don't be part of the outraged mob unless you plan on being outraged for a longtime.

ipaddr 5y ago

The news seems to be craving/inventing chaos since covid. Each crisis pushes the last out of the spotlight. It's cycling so quickly it has given rise to outrage culture. The media are dumping some moral crisis' on the viewer and trying to extract whatever emotion the view has left. People are confused and want to attack anything. Perhaps this is covid / lockdown induced.

krapp 5y ago
Are you implying that the Canadian news industry only covered this story, or even manufactured it, in order to extract rage-clicks from their viewers... as opposed to covering it because it happened and was newsworthy? Or that public outrage is merely the result of people being confused and punch-drunk from the psychological toll of the constant media news cycle... as opposed to an understandable reaction to the discovery of mass indigenous child graves at a residential school? I can understand cynicism when it comes to the media but writing this off as outrage culture and essentially "fake news" seems like a bridge too far. I'm sure it's good for karma though.
- beerandt 5y ago
  It's the sudden urgency and staged-shock that's the problem. Framing it as the most important story for you to read today, even though it's been known and newsworthy for years, and 50% of the text was copied from the story that ran on page 16F 10 years ago. Doing a few 10'x10' scans with GPR (which should never be trusted without ground truthing confirmation), then extrapolating it across a football field, and getting numbers that roughly agree with previous estimates isn't a breaking news update.
  - lostlogin 5y ago
    > It's the sudden urgency and staged-shock that's the problem. That’s a problem, sure. But I find the body count rather more alarming.
    - beerandt 5y ago
      That's my point- there's no reason to wake up today and be shocked that TB used to kill a lot of people, including kids. If I found a plantation house with 1000's of bodies buried in the yard, and forensic evidence shows most died a violent death, in a pattern of killings that repeated itself for decades... would you be alarmed at the body count at Arlington? Then why are you alarmed at the body count of a overgrown cemetery "found" where it was expected to be found, and containing roughly the same number of graves expected?
      - lostlogin 5y ago
        > would you be alarmed at the body count at Arlington? Alarmed isn’t quite the right word. But it’s likely close. > Then why are you alarmed at the body count of a overgrown cemetery "found" where it was expected to be found, and containing roughly the same number of graves expected? I had no idea this was a thing or that any schooling system regularly buried children.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Not fake news, well known facts being presented as news. The volume has been turned up to 10 and the media wants you to react. To get angry. To be controlled. Remember George Floyd? All of that stuff is still happening but the protests have moved on. The calls to defund have changed. This social movement is stalled.. until the next cycle. But day to day injustice keeps happening. Don't be part of the outraged mob unless you plan on being outraged for a longtime.