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The funny thing about this comment is that it is the perfect demonstration of how media/people omit or spin facts to control the narrative. Some missing facts:

by babesh 5y ago

The funny thing about this comment is that it is the perfect demonstration of how media/people omit or spin facts to control the narrative. Some missing facts: The CDC and Fauci recommended against masks to protect the mask supply for health providers. Media pushed this messaging. The vaccines seem to cause heart issues with some people dying from it. Only months later is the CDC admitting supposedly minor heart issues. Furthermore they are pushing people to take it (even those who stand to lose more than to benefit from it). Media pushes this narrative. The vaccines do seem to work for most people and seem effective against the variants of COVID-19. Many BLM protests were peaceful but some were taken advantage of and just became opportunities to loot. Defund the police has caused skyrocketing property crime and violent crime.

Steltek 5y ago
Omitting and spinning facts indeed. You're simply pushing your own narrative here so aren't you making yourself part of the problem?
- textgel 5y ago
  Seems they are adding facts that have been missed. Is there a particular reason you want these facts suppressed?
  - Steltek 5y ago
    LOL. "And how long have you been beating your wife?" babesh is adding facts, mixed with pure opinion, of his own choosing to also further a narrative. Is "Defund the police has caused skyrocketing property crime and violent crime." a verified (or even provable) fact? If so, what was omitted from that statement that would have made it less biased. And ultimately, how is he not committing the same sin as corporate media?
    - babesh 5y ago
      https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-these-stores-shoplifting-is-plaguing-residents-stores-in-san-francisco/ https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-... https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Fra... https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-police-funding-increase-as-crime-skyrockets https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-... Which facts would you like to dispute? What are you calling an opinion?
      - Steltek 5y ago
        > retail executives, police officers and city officials have attributed the surge to Proposition 47, a 2014 ballot measure that reclassified nonviolent larceny as a misdemeanor Your sources don't even support your opinion/narrative? If anything, I'm afraid your claim to the high ground has worsened.
        textgel 5y ago
        You're lying again. > In July, the Los Angeles City Council voted to slash $150 million from the LAPD budget. > Amid the wave of violent crime, Los Angeles voted to increase police funding.The Los Angeles County Metro voted to increase police funding by $36 million. > The city was even forced to reinstate its gun violence task force after disbanding the Gun Violence Reduction Team (GVRT) only months earlier. I'm genuinely curious. Do you think if you just scream something loudly and hysterically enough that it will become true? Or do you have some sort of higher goal that you feel can only be achieved by lying to people and that doing so is therefore justified? Or is it simply just malice?
        babesh 5y ago
        Apparently you can’t read because it isn’t just because it is a misdemeanor but because of the refusal of Chesa Boudin to prosecute. Look who is picking and choosing which facts to ignore and choosing to spin a narrative. Go watch all the news even of left sided news. There are a lot of complaints about how businesses and communities are hurt. There are increasing calls to fund the police and some communities are starting to do that. Even Chesa Boudin is now saying that businesses need to protected. Even London Breed is saying the same. They just arrested a person who was on a serial shoplifting spree. Police were complaining that they would arrest people and the DA would just let them free. https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-from-viral-video-at-san-francisco-walgreens-arrested-for-spree-of-thefts/ar-AALk3bE https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-fr... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts-surging-crime-drugs-and-homelessness-as-it-tries-to-bounce-back-from-covid-19/ar-AALmLGx https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts... Here is the shoplifter that they finally arrested after letting shoplifting go on for the past year.
    - textgel 5y ago
      Which facts is it he's left out? You don't get to just lie and say he's doing it without stating which is being left out. So given that you are baselessly attacking him, and the only thing that drew you to him was the facts he stated; clearly you don't want him stating them. So again. I ask, why do you want those facts suppressed? And why are you being evasive about answering the question?
- babesh 5y ago
  https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-held-up-gunpoint-interview-16281457.php https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-... Attempted robbery of reporters in front of Oakland City Hall in broad daylight while the reporters were interviewing a cop about Oakland supervisors defunding the police and shifting resources to his crime prevention division.

by babesh 5y ago

Steltek 5y ago

Omitting and spinning facts indeed. You're simply pushing your own narrative here so aren't you making yourself part of the problem?

textgel 5y ago
Seems they are adding facts that have been missed. Is there a particular reason you want these facts suppressed?
- Steltek 5y ago
  LOL. "And how long have you been beating your wife?" babesh is adding facts, mixed with pure opinion, of his own choosing to also further a narrative. Is "Defund the police has caused skyrocketing property crime and violent crime." a verified (or even provable) fact? If so, what was omitted from that statement that would have made it less biased. And ultimately, how is he not committing the same sin as corporate media?
  - babesh 5y ago
    https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-these-stores-shoplifting-is-plaguing-residents-stores-in-san-francisco/ https://www.citizensjournal.us/people-are-scared-to-go-into-... https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Francisco-crime-statistics-recall-16268178.php https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chesa-Boudin-San-Fra... https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-police-funding-increase-as-crime-skyrockets https://neonnettle.com/news/14685-los-angeles-votes-for-36m-... Which facts would you like to dispute? What are you calling an opinion?
    - Steltek 5y ago
      > retail executives, police officers and city officials have attributed the surge to Proposition 47, a 2014 ballot measure that reclassified nonviolent larceny as a misdemeanor Your sources don't even support your opinion/narrative? If anything, I'm afraid your claim to the high ground has worsened.
      - textgel 5y ago
        You're lying again. > In July, the Los Angeles City Council voted to slash $150 million from the LAPD budget. > Amid the wave of violent crime, Los Angeles voted to increase police funding.The Los Angeles County Metro voted to increase police funding by $36 million. > The city was even forced to reinstate its gun violence task force after disbanding the Gun Violence Reduction Team (GVRT) only months earlier. I'm genuinely curious. Do you think if you just scream something loudly and hysterically enough that it will become true? Or do you have some sort of higher goal that you feel can only be achieved by lying to people and that doing so is therefore justified? Or is it simply just malice?
      - babesh 5y ago
        Apparently you can’t read because it isn’t just because it is a misdemeanor but because of the refusal of Chesa Boudin to prosecute. Look who is picking and choosing which facts to ignore and choosing to spin a narrative. Go watch all the news even of left sided news. There are a lot of complaints about how businesses and communities are hurt. There are increasing calls to fund the police and some communities are starting to do that. Even Chesa Boudin is now saying that businesses need to protected. Even London Breed is saying the same. They just arrested a person who was on a serial shoplifting spree. Police were complaining that they would arrest people and the DA would just let them free. https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://youtu.be/2jrnhaLzCqA https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-from-viral-video-at-san-francisco-walgreens-arrested-for-spree-of-thefts/ar-AALk3bE https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/suspected-shoplifter-fr... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts-surging-crime-drugs-and-homelessness-as-it-tries-to-bounce-back-from-covid-19/ar-AALmLGx https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/san-francisco-confronts... Here is the shoplifter that they finally arrested after letting shoplifting go on for the past year.
  - textgel 5y ago
    Which facts is it he's left out? You don't get to just lie and say he's doing it without stating which is being left out. So given that you are baselessly attacking him, and the only thing that drew you to him was the facts he stated; clearly you don't want him stating them. So again. I ask, why do you want those facts suppressed? And why are you being evasive about answering the question?
babesh 5y ago
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-held-up-gunpoint-interview-16281457.php https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/NBC-Bay-Area-news-crew-... Attempted robbery of reporters in front of Oakland City Hall in broad daylight while the reporters were interviewing a cop about Oakland supervisors defunding the police and shifting resources to his crime prevention division.