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I don't think enough people are talking about the huge change in the crime landscape. Here in Atlanta, violent crime is up 50, 60% while arrests are down 40%.

by treis 5y ago

I don't think enough people are talking about the huge change in the crime landscape. Here in Atlanta, violent crime is up 50, 60% while arrests are down 40%. We're down hundreds of cops and morale is terrible. Cops aren't doing their jobs because they fear politically motivated prosecution. And for good reason given that a handful of them faced politically motivated prosecution. We're still below the worst days of violent crime but it's an extremely worrying trend. It took US cities decades to recover from the high crime of the last century and we really don't want the cycle to start again.

thrwthatway1 5y ago
Calling the previous century's reductions in crime a "recovery" is a flat out lie. The world was a much more violent place, and it's been steadily getting less violent. There's no reason we couldn't instantaneously recover from to the recent increases in violent crime.
colinmhayes 5y ago
Maybe they'd be more respected if they respected the communities they're supposed to protect? I don't know about Atlanta, but here in Chicago I've had nothing but horrible interactions with the police. How can you expect people to support you when you treat everyone like they're out to kill you?
MrRadar 5y ago
I wonder how much of this spike in violent crime is being driven by people just being burned-out by the slow-motion and, frankly, boring "apocalypse" that is the pandemic? I've personally noticed that reckless driving is also way up, and I have to imagine many other small crimes are too. If people don't feel like they care about the world, or that the world cares about them, why should they go out of their way to respect the law? If this is the case, hopefully this will just end up being a transient spike that will settle back down to the long-term trend as people readjust to "normality".
theossuary 5y ago
I'm going to call BS on this. So many sensationalist stories were written about how there's "a spike in crime," but they're comparing this year to last year! Of course there was a spike in crime, last year there was a pandemic and national lockdown. Crime shifted to online and domestic, and now that the country is opening back up it's shifting back. Take a look at the actual reported felony offenses and you'll see that yes there's a YTD spike this year, but it's still below where it was in 2019. YTD crimes: 2019 - 10,963 2020 - 9,022 2021 - 9,928 Really the only scary increases in crime have been in domestic violence (which I bet also explains the increase in murders). See https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3037/637138921337600000 https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3037/63... Also I'd really question wanting to retain police in a department that were so fickle they'd allow violent crimes to occur because they aren't worshiped enough. That is a type of self-centered police officer I'd like to leave anyways.
- treis 5y ago
  >I'm going to call BS on this. We've gone from 80-90 murders a year to 150 in 2020. There's absolutely something happening. I haven't dug into your numbers but reported crime rates is pretty easy to goose. Hard to hide bodies though.
  - theossuary 5y ago
    They've also seen an increase in domestic violence by ~150%, so yeah, that's a pretty obvious indicator of where the murders are coming from... It's not a bunch of street violence preventable by policing though, it's a bunch of dysfunctional families that could be prevented with education and community.

by treis 5y ago

thrwthatway1 5y ago

Calling the previous century's reductions in crime a "recovery" is a flat out lie. The world was a much more violent place, and it's been steadily getting less violent. There's no reason we couldn't instantaneously recover from to the recent increases in violent crime.

colinmhayes 5y ago

Maybe they'd be more respected if they respected the communities they're supposed to protect? I don't know about Atlanta, but here in Chicago I've had nothing but horrible interactions with the police. How can you expect people to support you when you treat everyone like they're out to kill you?

MrRadar 5y ago

I wonder how much of this spike in violent crime is being driven by people just being burned-out by the slow-motion and, frankly, boring "apocalypse" that is the pandemic? I've personally noticed that reckless driving is also way up, and I have to imagine many other small crimes are too. If people don't feel like they care about the world, or that the world cares about them, why should they go out of their way to respect the law? If this is the case, hopefully this will just end up being a transient spike that will settle back down to the long-term trend as people readjust to "normality".

theossuary 5y ago

I'm going to call BS on this. So many sensationalist stories were written about how there's "a spike in crime," but they're comparing this year to last year! Of course there was a spike in crime, last year there was a pandemic and national lockdown. Crime shifted to online and domestic, and now that the country is opening back up it's shifting back. Take a look at the actual reported felony offenses and you'll see that yes there's a YTD spike this year, but it's still below where it was in 2019. YTD crimes: 2019 - 10,963 2020 - 9,022 2021 - 9,928 Really the only scary increases in crime have been in domestic violence (which I bet also explains the increase in murders). See https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3037/637138921337600000 https://www.atlantapd.org/home/showpublisheddocument/3037/63... Also I'd really question wanting to retain police in a department that were so fickle they'd allow violent crimes to occur because they aren't worshiped enough. That is a type of self-centered police officer I'd like to leave anyways.

treis 5y ago
>I'm going to call BS on this. We've gone from 80-90 murders a year to 150 in 2020. There's absolutely something happening. I haven't dug into your numbers but reported crime rates is pretty easy to goose. Hard to hide bodies though.
- theossuary 5y ago
  They've also seen an increase in domestic violence by ~150%, so yeah, that's a pretty obvious indicator of where the murders are coming from... It's not a bunch of street violence preventable by policing though, it's a bunch of dysfunctional families that could be prevented with education and community.