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I can imagine how they become this way. With most offenders being from minority groups it's hard to keep an open mind if you're having to chase after them every

I can imagine how they become this way. With most offenders being from minority groups it's hard to keep an open mind if you're having to chase after them every day. Even though these problems are societal, not really caused by the minorities themselves but rather lack of opportunities etc But if you're on the business end of society's failures on a daily basis I can imagine how this changes one's opinion. I've worked as a technical support agent and I really started to be afraid of our company's products, being confronted with the worst that could happen to them every day. The knowledge that the calls I was getting were only about 0.1% of products in the field was easy to forget.

johnhenry 5y ago
Let's not ignore the fact that minorities neighborhoods have historically faced higher levels of scrutiny from police. It's not just that offenders are from minority groups... Consider that police are going out into minority groups looking for offenders.
- myfavoritedog 5y ago
  I saw a stat a while back that showed that any higher levels of policing of minority communities was directly attributable to higher levels of disturbance reports from within the communities themselves. So police aren’t just looking for offenders in minority communities. They’re going where the communities are asking them to be.
  - johnhenry 5y ago
    This article explains the situation better: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2016/09/01/143357/the-intersection-of-policing-and-race/ https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2016/09... There's also evidence to show that all else held equal, police respond with more force when dealing with minorities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_deadly_force_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_deadly_force_in_.... Do you have a source for the stat that you mentioned.
tiahura 5y ago
“Even though these problems are societal, not really caused by the minorities themselves but rather lack of opportunities etc” That’s the line of thinking that keeps many of them in that situation. We need to be honest -African American culture is largely dysfunctional and self-destructive. 120 years ago my ancestors were dirt poor, they didn’t have “equitable” opportunities in education, housing, or employment, yet they managed to not go around shooting each other, having children out of wedlock, or abusing drugs.
- yardie 5y ago
  Hello Mods. I'd like to report a racist shithead. Thanks!
  - tiahura 5y ago
    I’ve found that most people with your reaction typically have little first hand experience with the subject. Out of curiosity, how many homes in poor black neighborhoods did you visit last month? Unfortunately, I get to visit half a dozen or so each month.
    - yardie 5y ago
      > African American culture is largely dysfunctional and self-destructive. You don't know shit about me. But your post has told me plenty about you.
      - tiahura 5y ago
        I don’t know about you, that’s why I asked. I do know about black neighborhoods, that’s why I opined.
- objectivetruth 5y ago
  Helpful hint: you are actually visiting the website "Hacker News" but I think you were looking for "Stormfront."
- 5y ago
ttfkam 5y ago
Most policing is in minority neighborhoods, but not necessarily most crime. For example, white drivers carrying drugs is higher, but Black folks are more likely to get stopped and searched for drugs. So it's not that Black folks commit more of these crimes, they are just monitored more closely than their white counterparts regardless of outcome or reality. https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/bl...

johnhenry 5y ago

Let's not ignore the fact that minorities neighborhoods have historically faced higher levels of scrutiny from police. It's not just that offenders are from minority groups... Consider that police are going out into minority groups looking for offenders.

myfavoritedog 5y ago
I saw a stat a while back that showed that any higher levels of policing of minority communities was directly attributable to higher levels of disturbance reports from within the communities themselves. So police aren’t just looking for offenders in minority communities. They’re going where the communities are asking them to be.
- johnhenry 5y ago
  This article explains the situation better: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2016/09/01/143357/the-intersection-of-policing-and-race/ https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2016/09... There's also evidence to show that all else held equal, police respond with more force when dealing with minorities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_deadly_force_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_deadly_force_in_.... Do you have a source for the stat that you mentioned.

tiahura 5y ago

“Even though these problems are societal, not really caused by the minorities themselves but rather lack of opportunities etc” That’s the line of thinking that keeps many of them in that situation. We need to be honest -African American culture is largely dysfunctional and self-destructive. 120 years ago my ancestors were dirt poor, they didn’t have “equitable” opportunities in education, housing, or employment, yet they managed to not go around shooting each other, having children out of wedlock, or abusing drugs.

yardie 5y ago
Hello Mods. I'd like to report a racist shithead. Thanks!
- tiahura 5y ago
  I’ve found that most people with your reaction typically have little first hand experience with the subject. Out of curiosity, how many homes in poor black neighborhoods did you visit last month? Unfortunately, I get to visit half a dozen or so each month.
  - yardie 5y ago
    > African American culture is largely dysfunctional and self-destructive. You don't know shit about me. But your post has told me plenty about you.
    - tiahura 5y ago
      I don’t know about you, that’s why I asked. I do know about black neighborhoods, that’s why I opined.
objectivetruth 5y ago
Helpful hint: you are actually visiting the website "Hacker News" but I think you were looking for "Stormfront."
5y ago

ttfkam 5y ago

Most policing is in minority neighborhoods, but not necessarily most crime. For example, white drivers carrying drugs is higher, but Black folks are more likely to get stopped and searched for drugs. So it's not that Black folks commit more of these crimes, they are just monitored more closely than their white counterparts regardless of outcome or reality. https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/bl...