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Is there a reason that someone couldn’t do the same damage just running around among the terns’ nests?

airhead969 5y ago
Stop that. It's illegal thinking against loyalty to the agenda. Also, this exposes that we will need to regulate, educate, license, and certify wearers of trainers so that they can't be used in a way we don't like. No running!
groby_b 5y ago
It's significantly more work to run around the nest, and it requires more intentionality than piloting a drone and being stupid about it. There's also usually signage warning you to not do the running-through-the-nest thing. For obvious reasons, we can't hang warning signs in the air. I have my doubts that a license will prevent people from doing stupid things, but that is (at least part of) the reasoning for having a license - so the government can say "told you so". It's on par with immigration forms asking you if you're planning to be a terrorist. It's a useless question, but it establishes a paper trail that somebody has told you not to do that. It's like rooted in Lambert v. California, which stated that you can't convict a person of violating a law if there was no probability they could've know the law existed. A question, or a sign, or a license establishes that there is a probability.
- saint_abroad 5y ago
  > There's also usually signage warning you to not do the running-through-the-nest thing. "No drones, no dogs, and no bikes. Those are the posted rules in the Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve in Huntington Beach." https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/after-thousands-of-tern-eggs-are-abandoned-bolsa-chica-looks-to-educate-on-dangers-of-drone-activity https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/after-thousands-o... Indeed, licences won't stop stupidity but they do help establish penalties.
  - sleepybrett 5y ago
    Current law already has penalties.
- _hyn3 5y ago
  There's also no question or sign indicating that you have to take a drone license course, effective immediately. How would someone even find out about this new regulation? By hanging out on hacker news waiting for it?

Stop that. It's illegal thinking against loyalty to the agenda. Also, this exposes that we will need to regulate, educate, license, and certify wearers of trainers so that they can't be used in a way we don't like. No running!

groby_b 5y ago

It's significantly more work to run around the nest, and it requires more intentionality than piloting a drone and being stupid about it. There's also usually signage warning you to not do the running-through-the-nest thing. For obvious reasons, we can't hang warning signs in the air. I have my doubts that a license will prevent people from doing stupid things, but that is (at least part of) the reasoning for having a license - so the government can say "told you so". It's on par with immigration forms asking you if you're planning to be a terrorist. It's a useless question, but it establishes a paper trail that somebody has told you not to do that. It's like rooted in Lambert v. California, which stated that you can't convict a person of violating a law if there was no probability they could've know the law existed. A question, or a sign, or a license establishes that there is a probability.

saint_abroad 5y ago
> There's also usually signage warning you to not do the running-through-the-nest thing. "No drones, no dogs, and no bikes. Those are the posted rules in the Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve in Huntington Beach." https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/after-thousands-of-tern-eggs-are-abandoned-bolsa-chica-looks-to-educate-on-dangers-of-drone-activity https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/after-thousands-o... Indeed, licences won't stop stupidity but they do help establish penalties.
- sleepybrett 5y ago
  Current law already has penalties.
_hyn3 5y ago
There's also no question or sign indicating that you have to take a drone license course, effective immediately. How would someone even find out about this new regulation? By hanging out on hacker news waiting for it?