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For people replying to this comment, the point is, policing isn’t as dangerous as you might think. Certainly it isn’t risk free, but people perform many more da

For people replying to this comment, the point is, policing isn’t as dangerous as you might think. Certainly it isn’t risk free, but people perform many more dangerous jobs. Police deaths are often tragic and a result of human on human violence though, so it tends to spark a stronger reaction than “well, a giant tree fell on Jimmy and he died”. Still tragic but there are no “bad guys” in that scenario for a lumberjack, for example. Police also are supposedly serving their communities and there is a perceived nobility to the profession that makes deaths while in service to the community much more visible. It can even trend towards a bit of hero worship. Not judging the profession itself, there are a lot of human factors in the job and certainly, anyone who has dealt with conflict can attest that dealing with other people all day is a lot more stressful than many other professions in that list.

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
When it comes to analysis of job hazards, death is perhaps the penultimate risk, but to ignore the vast breadth of other job hazards that law enforcement officers are exposed to is an analytical failure. Further compounding the issue is that law enforcement is not the job that the police are often tasked with. Some of the job hazards they are exposed to are due to making inappropriate demands of law enforcement officials.
- threatofrain 5y ago
  > When it comes to analysis of job hazards, death is perhaps the penultimate risk, Death is penultimate to... what?
  - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
    See the United States “Occupational Injury and Illness Classification Manual” at https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/oiicm.pdf https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/oiicm.pdf
    - ShroudedNight 5y ago
      I've tried navigating that document, it's not clear to me where your ordering came from. FWIW 'penultimate' means second from last, suggesting that there is an 'ultimate' risk even more feared than death. I believe that's what GP was asking about.
      - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
        Ah, sorry for not expounding further. I did understand what the GP was conveying, but I’m just saying: It is common to consider some situations as being worse than death. I suspect that most reasonable readers of that classification manual would be able to identify a selection of situations that could lead to being considered worse than death.
  - xnx 5y ago
    If you're familiar with The Princess Bride, "to the pain".

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago

When it comes to analysis of job hazards, death is perhaps the penultimate risk, but to ignore the vast breadth of other job hazards that law enforcement officers are exposed to is an analytical failure. Further compounding the issue is that law enforcement is not the job that the police are often tasked with. Some of the job hazards they are exposed to are due to making inappropriate demands of law enforcement officials.

threatofrain 5y ago
> When it comes to analysis of job hazards, death is perhaps the penultimate risk, Death is penultimate to... what?
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  See the United States “Occupational Injury and Illness Classification Manual” at https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/oiicm.pdf https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/oiicm.pdf
  - ShroudedNight 5y ago
    I've tried navigating that document, it's not clear to me where your ordering came from. FWIW 'penultimate' means second from last, suggesting that there is an 'ultimate' risk even more feared than death. I believe that's what GP was asking about.
    - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
      Ah, sorry for not expounding further. I did understand what the GP was conveying, but I’m just saying: It is common to consider some situations as being worse than death. I suspect that most reasonable readers of that classification manual would be able to identify a selection of situations that could lead to being considered worse than death.
- xnx 5y ago
  If you're familiar with The Princess Bride, "to the pain".