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> Nearly half of all students thought their degree offered poor value for money this year according to a survey that sheds light on the scale of student anger w

> Nearly half of all students thought their degree offered poor value for money this year according to a survey that sheds light on the scale of student anger with their universities’ response to the pandemic Emphasis mine on "this year". > Twice as many students thought their courses offered poor value (44%) than in 2019-20 So it used to be better in non-pandemic years. Seems that some people is jumping to conclusions about education in the UK when the article is specifically about presidential/non-presidential and other pandemic challenges.

micdr0p 5y ago
presidential? but yeah i totally get they feel they're not getting their money's worth with zoom classes..
- ElViajero 5y ago
  > presidential? Upsy-daisy. It sounds cooler, thou.
- xf1cf 5y ago
  I ended up taking the pandemic off from my graduate classes. I am funding out of pocket (a local university so about $6,000 per year on a dev salary). I was given the option to get a GA-ship but at 11k a year I figured as long as the night classes don't go away I'd rather work. I did this because they were upcharging for cleaning, upcharging for "tele-classes", and importantly STILL charging me for property on campus I was barred from using (University, Gym, etc). Worse yet the remaining courses at the beginning of the pandemic were terrible. Once the "cleaning policies" came into effect students were elected from each class, each day to clean the room before and after the class. So effectively we were paying them for the privilege of cleaning desks/boards/markers/etc for free. Something that takes up to 20m in the auditoriums. Absolutely disgraceful of universities to do these things.
TillE 5y ago
It's embarrassing how many of the comments here are quite obviously based entirely on reading the headline and nothing else. I read the article when I saw it in The Guardian yesterday, it is of course entirely about changes during the pandemic, not a general conversation about higher education.

micdr0p 5y ago

presidential? but yeah i totally get they feel they're not getting their money's worth with zoom classes..

ElViajero 5y ago
> presidential? Upsy-daisy. It sounds cooler, thou.
xf1cf 5y ago
I ended up taking the pandemic off from my graduate classes. I am funding out of pocket (a local university so about $6,000 per year on a dev salary). I was given the option to get a GA-ship but at 11k a year I figured as long as the night classes don't go away I'd rather work. I did this because they were upcharging for cleaning, upcharging for "tele-classes", and importantly STILL charging me for property on campus I was barred from using (University, Gym, etc). Worse yet the remaining courses at the beginning of the pandemic were terrible. Once the "cleaning policies" came into effect students were elected from each class, each day to clean the room before and after the class. So effectively we were paying them for the privilege of cleaning desks/boards/markers/etc for free. Something that takes up to 20m in the auditoriums. Absolutely disgraceful of universities to do these things.

TillE 5y ago

It's embarrassing how many of the comments here are quite obviously based entirely on reading the headline and nothing else. I read the article when I saw it in The Guardian yesterday, it is of course entirely about changes during the pandemic, not a general conversation about higher education.