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Imagine how this would change if they were paying $100k+ for their degree in the USA.

fy20 5y ago
The article says some universities - taking into account living costs - are £20,000 a year, so yes a four year course would be above $100k. Given that UK salaries are so much lower than the US (the average graduate salary is £24k vs $50k in the US), I'd say UK degrees are worse value than the US.
- alistairSH 5y ago
  US university can easily surpass $100k in tuition alone. My alma mater, UVA, currently estimates the total cost of attendance for in-state (subsidized by state government) at $34k/year (tuition, room-board, other expenses). For out-of-state students, that number is $68k/year. And this is a state university, not a private institution.
  - _wldu 5y ago
    As a counter example, you can get a MSCS degree from Georgia Tech for under 10,000 dollars (total cost). GT is a top 10 CS program. Anyone in the world may apply. I expect more of this in the near future from other top programs. Online, Cheap and Elite: https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018/03/20/analysis-shows-georgia-techs-online-masters-computer-science https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018...
    - wheelinsupial 5y ago
      Georgia Tech's OMSCS degree requires an undergrad degree (CS, math, comp eng, or EE preferred) for admissions. It even states "work experience will not take the place of an undergraduate degree."[1] Coursera offers one online BS in computer science with the University of London [2] costing £11,229 - £16,790 Depending upon geographic location. Edx offers microbachelors degrees, but doesn't seem to yet offer a BS in CS. Oregon State Uni offers an online BS in CS for $69,480 USD in tuition (180 credits * $386/credit). To your point, it can certainly be delivered relatively cheaply online, but there doesn't seem to be an incentive to do so. If we use GT as the benchmark, then 10k / 2 years should mean that a 4 year degree can be offered for 20k / 4 years. It seems delivering MS programs more cheaply is not the biggest barrier in US higher education. It seems a bigger impact would be to deliver the BS level education more cost effectively. [1] https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/admission-criteria https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/admission-criteria [2] https://www.coursera.org/degrees/bachelor-of-science-computer-science-london https://www.coursera.org/degrees/bachelor-of-science-compute... [3] https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate/computer-science/ https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate...

fy20 5y ago

The article says some universities - taking into account living costs - are £20,000 a year, so yes a four year course would be above $100k. Given that UK salaries are so much lower than the US (the average graduate salary is £24k vs $50k in the US), I'd say UK degrees are worse value than the US.

alistairSH 5y ago
US university can easily surpass $100k in tuition alone. My alma mater, UVA, currently estimates the total cost of attendance for in-state (subsidized by state government) at $34k/year (tuition, room-board, other expenses). For out-of-state students, that number is $68k/year. And this is a state university, not a private institution.
- _wldu 5y ago
  As a counter example, you can get a MSCS degree from Georgia Tech for under 10,000 dollars (total cost). GT is a top 10 CS program. Anyone in the world may apply. I expect more of this in the near future from other top programs. Online, Cheap and Elite: https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018/03/20/analysis-shows-georgia-techs-online-masters-computer-science https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2018...
  - wheelinsupial 5y ago
    Georgia Tech's OMSCS degree requires an undergrad degree (CS, math, comp eng, or EE preferred) for admissions. It even states "work experience will not take the place of an undergraduate degree."[1] Coursera offers one online BS in computer science with the University of London [2] costing £11,229 - £16,790 Depending upon geographic location. Edx offers microbachelors degrees, but doesn't seem to yet offer a BS in CS. Oregon State Uni offers an online BS in CS for $69,480 USD in tuition (180 credits * $386/credit). To your point, it can certainly be delivered relatively cheaply online, but there doesn't seem to be an incentive to do so. If we use GT as the benchmark, then 10k / 2 years should mean that a 4 year degree can be offered for 20k / 4 years. It seems delivering MS programs more cheaply is not the biggest barrier in US higher education. It seems a bigger impact would be to deliver the BS level education more cost effectively. [1] https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/admission-criteria https://omscs.gatech.edu/program-info/admission-criteria [2] https://www.coursera.org/degrees/bachelor-of-science-computer-science-london https://www.coursera.org/degrees/bachelor-of-science-compute... [3] https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate/computer-science/ https://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate...