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37Signals Quietly Removes Its Famous Basecamp Manifesto

17 points by natasham25 15y ago

noonespecial 15y ago
Internet archive to the rescue. http://web.archive.org/web/20081218064511/http://www.basecamphq.com/manifesto.php http://web.archive.org/web/20081218064511/http://www.basecam...
- natasham25 15y ago
  Awesome! Thanks.
  - copper 15y ago
    Downvoters should probably know that she's the one who wrote the article.
    - natasham25 15y ago
      Yeah, I thought people on here would be able to point me in the right direction. I really wanted to find and read the original manifesto.
rdoherty 15y ago
Hanlon's Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) I really doubt 37Signals took their manifesto down for nefarious reasons. Changing architecture, codebase rewrites, SCM tool, etc, all could have caused that page to be removed.
- natasham25 15y ago
  I'm just curious about what happened. Totally agree that it could have been some weird mistake.
- jarin 15y ago
  It couldn't have anything to do with being a PHP page on a Rails-centric company's site, I'm sure.
a3_nm 15y ago
Search any sentence from the linked screenshot, quoted, in Google, for interesting results. For instance: "many of our competitors require a call back".
sabat 15y ago
The emperor has no clothes.
blankslate 15y ago
I'd guess they've outgrown the capacity (or desire) to keep answering support emails themselves, for one thing.
dmazin 15y ago
I can see that one of the ills of being popular is that there is someone somewhere to write a shitty blog post about every fucking file system operation.
- mburney 15y ago
  That's a bit harsh. It was a popular page that centered around the brand of a popular company and caused their fans to perceive them in a certain light. It is natural to want to know if the removal was deliberate or not.
  - dmazin 15y ago
    There seems to be a big trend to try to expose 37signals as actually some sort of evil company or to diminish their image. Which makes sense due to their popularity and claims of excellence (which I think are, in this case, valid).

17 points by natasham25 15y ago

Internet archive to the rescue. http://web.archive.org/web/20081218064511/http://www.basecamphq.com/manifesto.php http://web.archive.org/web/20081218064511/http://www.basecam...

natasham25 15y ago
Awesome! Thanks.
- copper 15y ago
  Downvoters should probably know that she's the one who wrote the article.
  - natasham25 15y ago
    Yeah, I thought people on here would be able to point me in the right direction. I really wanted to find and read the original manifesto.

rdoherty 15y ago

Hanlon's Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) I really doubt 37Signals took their manifesto down for nefarious reasons. Changing architecture, codebase rewrites, SCM tool, etc, all could have caused that page to be removed.

natasham25 15y ago
I'm just curious about what happened. Totally agree that it could have been some weird mistake.
jarin 15y ago
It couldn't have anything to do with being a PHP page on a Rails-centric company's site, I'm sure.

a3_nm 15y ago

Search any sentence from the linked screenshot, quoted, in Google, for interesting results. For instance: "many of our competitors require a call back".

sabat 15y ago

The emperor has no clothes.

blankslate 15y ago

I'd guess they've outgrown the capacity (or desire) to keep answering support emails themselves, for one thing.

dmazin 15y ago

I can see that one of the ills of being popular is that there is someone somewhere to write a shitty blog post about every fucking file system operation.

mburney 15y ago
That's a bit harsh. It was a popular page that centered around the brand of a popular company and caused their fans to perceive them in a certain light. It is natural to want to know if the removal was deliberate or not.
- dmazin 15y ago
  There seems to be a big trend to try to expose 37signals as actually some sort of evil company or to diminish their image. Which makes sense due to their popularity and claims of excellence (which I think are, in this case, valid).