Again, there quite clearly is a debate going on in society and I think the salient point you’re missing is that trans folks aren’t just deciding for themselves

Again, there quite clearly is a debate going on in society and I think the salient point you’re missing is that trans folks aren’t just deciding for themselves among themselves; there’s obvious negative externalities for women involved (such as in sport). Literally, world records have been broken, women lose spots in the Olympics, and there are even potentially severe physical consequences for fighting trans women who have massive strength differentials. So I think just to say “shut up and listen!” snd “don’t deny my existence!” aren’t really arguments here. So let me ask you: why do you think only trans voices are allowed in the debate? Why do their feelings superseed everyone else's? I have actually read White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo and for the most part vehemently disagree but to be honest I don’t want to comment so much on it right now as I’m afraid my account will be rate limited again... But listen, as I said before, I understand being trans must be hard. But that’s simply not good enough. You don’t get everything you want just because it’s hard for you. You don’t (necessarily) decide if you can compete with biological women on a level playing field. That’s really the realm of science, not feelings. Also, is it really that traumatic if trans women have to compete with men as opposed to women if they want to compete in certain sports? Not to sound callus, but given there’s biological reasons for it, I honestly don’t think it’s that offensive? It's reality. And, again, it’s not denying their existence and bigotry and hatred, etc. It’s just a question of science and what’s fair: There’s a reason we separate men and women in certain sports. Let’s even stick to combat sports as my original, extreme example, to find some common ground. Do you agree trans women shouldn’t be the only ones deciding if they’re allowed to fight biological women? Do you at least think women, and scientists, and combat experts should get a say in that debate? Do you agree they shouldn’t fight them at all? Or do you think us even talking about it is too traumatic (or at least inappropriate) for trans people to listen to? Honestly, if it's the latter, I don't see us finding any common ground at all, and that's what my OP and The Economist article was talking about.