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YouTube is absolutely not the place for serious content like this. Why is he even using it?

by everyone 5y ago

junon 5y ago
Where, exactly, is "the place" for "serious content" like this?
- everyone 5y ago
  Youtube is the home of auto-generated kids videos and content farms. Thats the content they seem to want there. Anything else is randomly taken down. Literally any other site where one can upload videos would be better.
  - jowsie 5y ago
    This sounds a lot like you don't use YouTube at all, as I've not seen auto-generated kids videos or content farm trash in a long time, and YouTube is my primary entertainment/educational video source.
    - dathinab 5y ago
      Yay, content personalization works. But putting that aside from a person using YT often from incognito mode and similar: - there is a overlap between "content farm trash" and "entertainment visdeos" what you might seem as "content trash" other might see as "short simple entertainment". - there is a lot of educational content on YT, sadly it is often not featured that much on a "incognito" front page - there is a lot of entertainment content with a bit of educational content on it. - there is even more purely entertainment content on it - there is questionable kids content on it (but YT explicitly split out YT Kids because it (at least officially) doesn't want kids on the normal YT (kids != teens/young adults) - there is questionable "content farm trash" it also tries most to "play to algorithm" so it might seem that there is a lot of it when you visit YT in incognito mode/without personalized YT preferences. But it's not what keeps the platform alive. - there is a lot of TV content on it (at least in some countries) (e.g. a recordings of TV news programs uploaded by the TV channels which produced it). - there is quite a bit of serious content, discussions, etc. on it sadly mostly demonetized. - there is a bit of more then just a bit of very very wrong and misleading content on it. Or in other words YT is a platform for all content, from extremely serious discussions over good entertainment, grate educational material to pointless 5 minute craft videos and ending with conspiracy theories.
  - NoOneNew 5y ago
    While I agree yt has lots of flaws, you need to curate your feed a bit. 95% of my feed is engineering, dev, history and super niche music. "Dont Recommend Channel" was literally the greatest feature they ever created.
  - kingsuper20 5y ago
    >Literally any other site where one can upload videos would be better. You can make that case, but it's hard to beat youtube. It's not just a matter of the amount of content, but also support on settop boxes/devices, quality of playback,etc. Having said that, I'm starting to go to the effort of building an offline library. To me, the youtube death of a thousand cuts is happening because of their increasingly heinous ads (like google search) and strengthening copyright enforcement (since their position is now in place).
- izacus 5y ago
  > Where, exactly, is "the place" for "serious content" like this? In a place the creator is in full control and isn't funded by advertisers which will pull their funding for anything they dislike. That's pretty much the nature of publishing content - if you're not independent there's always the tension of your funding source dictating the content.
  - junon 5y ago
    Do you use youtube? Most creators have independent sponsorships.
throwaway316943 5y ago
YouTube is the most accessible place for content like this. They may be running the site into the ground lately but the initial implementation of a site that allows easy uploading, sharing and discovery of video content still has a lot of merit and is miles beyond anything else if only for the fact that it has the largest market share.
- junon 5y ago
  This biggest problem any competitor faces is cost. YouTube has a monopoly on this space, unfortunately.
  - silon42 5y ago
    The only alternative would be some kind of distributed torrent index. But would need to work in a browser to be accessible to people. So, unless browsers add first class support for this, this means a web site with ads, probably and then you have the same problems again.
    - junon 5y ago
      There's no way the average content creator would seed videos indefinitely. The whole point of a video hosting service is to not host it yourself.
      - testific8 5y ago
        I doubt this. People are willing to reupload videos that they like, so why wouldn't they seed? for example this video has been reuploaded quite a few times because people like it so much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhu-EA1ruNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhu-EA1ruNk The whole point of a video hosting service is to act as an easy directory for finding videos you like. The fact that the same service happens to host the videos in this case is inconsequential.
        junon 5y ago

YouTube is absolutely not the place for serious content like this. Why is he even using it?

junon 5y ago

Where, exactly, is "the place" for "serious content" like this?

everyone 5y ago
Youtube is the home of auto-generated kids videos and content farms. Thats the content they seem to want there. Anything else is randomly taken down. Literally any other site where one can upload videos would be better.
- jowsie 5y ago
  This sounds a lot like you don't use YouTube at all, as I've not seen auto-generated kids videos or content farm trash in a long time, and YouTube is my primary entertainment/educational video source.
  - dathinab 5y ago
    Yay, content personalization works. But putting that aside from a person using YT often from incognito mode and similar: - there is a overlap between "content farm trash" and "entertainment visdeos" what you might seem as "content trash" other might see as "short simple entertainment". - there is a lot of educational content on YT, sadly it is often not featured that much on a "incognito" front page - there is a lot of entertainment content with a bit of educational content on it. - there is even more purely entertainment content on it - there is questionable kids content on it (but YT explicitly split out YT Kids because it (at least officially) doesn't want kids on the normal YT (kids != teens/young adults) - there is questionable "content farm trash" it also tries most to "play to algorithm" so it might seem that there is a lot of it when you visit YT in incognito mode/without personalized YT preferences. But it's not what keeps the platform alive. - there is a lot of TV content on it (at least in some countries) (e.g. a recordings of TV news programs uploaded by the TV channels which produced it). - there is quite a bit of serious content, discussions, etc. on it sadly mostly demonetized. - there is a bit of more then just a bit of very very wrong and misleading content on it. Or in other words YT is a platform for all content, from extremely serious discussions over good entertainment, grate educational material to pointless 5 minute craft videos and ending with conspiracy theories.
- NoOneNew 5y ago
  While I agree yt has lots of flaws, you need to curate your feed a bit. 95% of my feed is engineering, dev, history and super niche music. "Dont Recommend Channel" was literally the greatest feature they ever created.
- kingsuper20 5y ago
  >Literally any other site where one can upload videos would be better. You can make that case, but it's hard to beat youtube. It's not just a matter of the amount of content, but also support on settop boxes/devices, quality of playback,etc. Having said that, I'm starting to go to the effort of building an offline library. To me, the youtube death of a thousand cuts is happening because of their increasingly heinous ads (like google search) and strengthening copyright enforcement (since their position is now in place).
izacus 5y ago
> Where, exactly, is "the place" for "serious content" like this? In a place the creator is in full control and isn't funded by advertisers which will pull their funding for anything they dislike. That's pretty much the nature of publishing content - if you're not independent there's always the tension of your funding source dictating the content.
- junon 5y ago
  Do you use youtube? Most creators have independent sponsorships.

throwaway316943 5y ago

YouTube is the most accessible place for content like this. They may be running the site into the ground lately but the initial implementation of a site that allows easy uploading, sharing and discovery of video content still has a lot of merit and is miles beyond anything else if only for the fact that it has the largest market share.

junon 5y ago
This biggest problem any competitor faces is cost. YouTube has a monopoly on this space, unfortunately.
- silon42 5y ago
  The only alternative would be some kind of distributed torrent index. But would need to work in a browser to be accessible to people. So, unless browsers add first class support for this, this means a web site with ads, probably and then you have the same problems again.
  - junon 5y ago
    There's no way the average content creator would seed videos indefinitely. The whole point of a video hosting service is to not host it yourself.
    - testific8 5y ago
      I doubt this. People are willing to reupload videos that they like, so why wouldn't they seed? for example this video has been reuploaded quite a few times because people like it so much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhu-EA1ruNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhu-EA1ruNk The whole point of a video hosting service is to act as an easy directory for finding videos you like. The fact that the same service happens to host the videos in this case is inconsequential.
      - junon 5y ago