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The solution is to collectively, clearly, and politely tell the Communist Party of China to get fked. A lot of companies will lose money and a lot of things wil

The solution is to collectively, clearly, and politely tell the Communist Party of China to get fked. A lot of companies will lose money and a lot of things will get expensive, but it’s either rip the bandaid off now or amputate a limb later. Does the world have the courage to do it?

trainsplanes 5y ago
Unfortunately, it seems the path the world is taking is to become less dependent on Taiwan and China while avoiding upsetting China. We're going to see a repeat of these events 20 years from now when Vietnam's economy grows, thanks to manufacturing relocation, and we're just as dependent on them for various things. Right now the world is hoping and praying that Vietnam will liberalize when money flows in, but it's more likely they'll follow a similar path as China, albeit less powerful.
- Koiwai 5y ago
  They tried to relocate manufacturing to Vietnam (and Thailand?) due to labor cost increase in China, then labor cost increased in Vietnam/Thailand too, not a very successful story.
inglor_cz 5y ago
Looking at the Sudetenland crisis of 1938, it doesn't. It took several iterations of territorial expansion for Germany to be considered an actual fightable foe. Austria, Memel, Sudetenland, the rest of the Czech lands, Poland. Even after the invasion of Poland, when war was declared, it was a Phony War in the beginning. The fighting in the West only really started in 1940.
chx 5y ago
The world didn't tell Russia to get fked when they occupied Crimea and started a shadow war with Ukraine. There is a very simple way of telling a country to revert course: deem their passports no longer valid. Fundamentally, the right to move between countries is provided by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Article 12 which says "Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own" but then continues "The above-mentioned rights shall not be subject to any restrictions except those which are provided by law, are necessary to protect national security, public order (ordre public), public health or morals or the rights and freedoms of others, and are consistent with the other rights recognized in the present Covenant". For China, it'd be even easier since they signed but didn't ratify this treaty despite it has been signed in 1966 and in force since 1976.
- gambiting 5y ago
  I doubt it would have been the same if Crimea(or Ukraine in general) had the world leading chip manufacturer on their territory. Unfortunately other powerful countries had little reason to care about it, outside of some sense of duty or agreements which were signed decades ago and no one really felt like enforcing.

trainsplanes 5y ago

Unfortunately, it seems the path the world is taking is to become less dependent on Taiwan and China while avoiding upsetting China. We're going to see a repeat of these events 20 years from now when Vietnam's economy grows, thanks to manufacturing relocation, and we're just as dependent on them for various things. Right now the world is hoping and praying that Vietnam will liberalize when money flows in, but it's more likely they'll follow a similar path as China, albeit less powerful.

Koiwai 5y ago
They tried to relocate manufacturing to Vietnam (and Thailand?) due to labor cost increase in China, then labor cost increased in Vietnam/Thailand too, not a very successful story.

inglor_cz 5y ago

Looking at the Sudetenland crisis of 1938, it doesn't. It took several iterations of territorial expansion for Germany to be considered an actual fightable foe. Austria, Memel, Sudetenland, the rest of the Czech lands, Poland. Even after the invasion of Poland, when war was declared, it was a Phony War in the beginning. The fighting in the West only really started in 1940.

chx 5y ago

The world didn't tell Russia to get fked when they occupied Crimea and started a shadow war with Ukraine. There is a very simple way of telling a country to revert course: deem their passports no longer valid. Fundamentally, the right to move between countries is provided by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Article 12 which says "Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own" but then continues "The above-mentioned rights shall not be subject to any restrictions except those which are provided by law, are necessary to protect national security, public order (ordre public), public health or morals or the rights and freedoms of others, and are consistent with the other rights recognized in the present Covenant". For China, it'd be even easier since they signed but didn't ratify this treaty despite it has been signed in 1966 and in force since 1976.

gambiting 5y ago
I doubt it would have been the same if Crimea(or Ukraine in general) had the world leading chip manufacturer on their territory. Unfortunately other powerful countries had little reason to care about it, outside of some sense of duty or agreements which were signed decades ago and no one really felt like enforcing.