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The solution is to stop playing the bullshit game of Taiwan non-recognition, give it a seat in the UN and protect it.
by qwerty456127 5y ago
The solution is to stop playing the bullshit game of Taiwan non-recognition, give it a seat in the UN and protect it.
- colinb 5y agoCan a place be recognized as a country by the UN if a Security Council member vetos?
- qwerty456127 5y agoPerhaps, if all the rest of the security council members and other countrises recognize it individually. You can veto a UN decision but not a sovereign country decision.
- kabouseng 5y agoThere is no way Russia will join other countries in such a UN recognition of Taiwan, as it will open a very nasty door for them regarding the Crimea... So 2 of the 5 permanent members of the UN is already not going to do this. And it is not only limited to non-western countries, the same argument holds for Spain with Catalonia for instance. Real-politik is complicated.
- rsj_hn 5y agoRecognition of a country does not require the security council, a general assembly vote is all that is needed. That said, the UN isn't exactly a body known for it's lawfullness or fidelity to procedure. When the UN General Secretary Ban Ki-moon rejected Taiwan's bid because of resolution 2758, there was no real legal basis for him to do that, but people just went along. Neither is there a "supreme court" of the UN that can settle these disputes, as the ICJ is intended to resolve disputes between two member nations, not disputes between the General Assembly and the Secretary General. It's best to think of the UN as a meeting place where consensus can form, rather than as a law making body with a well functioning appeal and dispute resolution process for its own deliberations.
- LatteLazy 5y agoI support recognising Taiwan. But doing so won't make it any more secure.
- qwerty456127 5y agoThe Taiwan government would probably welcome some US military/naval bases.
- LatteLazy 5y agoYeah. There is an airbase I think? The US took it over from Japan but I'm not sure its really used... I think if I were Taiwan, it would be US bases or we leave the NPT and build some warheads...
- Koiwai 5y agoNo, sold them some old F-16s though.
- Koiwai 5y agoWake up, dude, look up "Operation PBSuccess".
- Koiwai 5y ago"For anyone waiting for US to exercise justice on this matter, might want to read that article about Secretary Clinton considering selling Taiwan to China." My previous comment on a previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26382543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26382543 Seems relevant.
- esyir 5y agoThere's something to be said about going nuclear. For all that shit about proliferation, the ability of a small country to inflict drastically disproportionate damage to a larger country really cripples military offensives.
- ZoomerCretin 5y agoHow would that be a solution? What does Taiwan’s standing (or lack thereof) in the UN have to do with protecting the chip supply chain? Isn’t the US already defending it?
- brazzy 5y agoIf done by a majority of countries, it would greatly reduce the military threat of China invading Taiwan, because it would imply that those countries would not ignore an invastion or only protest inconsequentially, which is what China can currently assume rather confidently. Even the US has been very carefully not fully committing to a defense of Taiwan, giving China the impression (according to some reports) that they might get away with it if they just act quickly enough. Of course, none of this affects non-military threats to TSMC's production, like earthquakes.
- lucian1900 5y agoThat’s not necessarily what Taiwan wants, either its people or current government. It still claims the whole of China as its territory, for one.