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I understand the skepticism, but I urge you to look into the people running the clinic, they are honest and credible people, and the results are real. They also

I understand the skepticism, but I urge you to look into the people running the clinic, they are honest and credible people, and the results are real. They also recount that they have trouble with people finding such a simple solution in-credible.

faeyanpiraat 5y ago
I might be wrong, but it seems like they are charging a couple thousand euros for this simple solution?
- lambdaba 5y ago
  They offer a service that includes their supervision... The diet itself isn't proprietary, and given their results I don't mind they charge a decent amount. But, again, the diet is basically: get almost all of your calories from animal fat (four-legged animals, because of the particular fatty acid profile), eat enough protein but not in excess, and eat organ meats (liver, brain, etc.) once a week. I don't know how you make your judgments but if you look at any intervention by Zsófia Clemens she will strike you as an obviously decent person, these people are not charlatans. Also, this animal-based ketogenic approach is not unique to them, the "zerocarb" / "carnivore" community is also full of testimonials of people reversing various conditions, especially autoimmune disease. This high-fat approach tends to attract people who are in more difficult / urgent situations, such as late-stage, inoperable cancers.
- lambdaba 5y ago
  If you're interested in a case of a person treating brain cancer successfully with a similar diet, look up Andrew Scarborough, he's presently a cancer researcher iirc, but he has been using such a diet for years to successfully put a rare inoperable brain cancer into remission.
  - faeyanpiraat 5y ago
    I've skimmed your comment history and I think we could have some productive conversations outside of HN, if you want you can send me your preferred way to contact you to: hnmsketohun@protonmail.com (köszi)
    - lambdaba 5y ago
      Sent you an email

faeyanpiraat 5y ago

I might be wrong, but it seems like they are charging a couple thousand euros for this simple solution?

lambdaba 5y ago
They offer a service that includes their supervision... The diet itself isn't proprietary, and given their results I don't mind they charge a decent amount. But, again, the diet is basically: get almost all of your calories from animal fat (four-legged animals, because of the particular fatty acid profile), eat enough protein but not in excess, and eat organ meats (liver, brain, etc.) once a week. I don't know how you make your judgments but if you look at any intervention by Zsófia Clemens she will strike you as an obviously decent person, these people are not charlatans. Also, this animal-based ketogenic approach is not unique to them, the "zerocarb" / "carnivore" community is also full of testimonials of people reversing various conditions, especially autoimmune disease. This high-fat approach tends to attract people who are in more difficult / urgent situations, such as late-stage, inoperable cancers.
lambdaba 5y ago
If you're interested in a case of a person treating brain cancer successfully with a similar diet, look up Andrew Scarborough, he's presently a cancer researcher iirc, but he has been using such a diet for years to successfully put a rare inoperable brain cancer into remission.
- faeyanpiraat 5y ago
  I've skimmed your comment history and I think we could have some productive conversations outside of HN, if you want you can send me your preferred way to contact you to: hnmsketohun@protonmail.com (köszi)
  - lambdaba 5y ago
    Sent you an email