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My claim is that more of the students that attend schools in impoverished areas need significant support beyond being presented instructional content than stude

by dwater 5y ago

My claim is that more of the students that attend schools in impoverished areas need significant support beyond being presented instructional content than students in affluent areas, and that when students with those high needs are concentrated they are less likely to have them met. My experience as a secondary school teacher in multiple Title 1 schools was that when you are responsible for a classroom of 30 students, once you have more than a few with high needs (3-5 in my experience) you are unable to provide any of them the support they need. When I taught in an affluent school, I saw that students who were in Special Education programs were given a lot more personal attention and support, which provided them the structure they needed to be successful. Students where those needs are concentrated don't get the attention and support and as a result are very, very unlikely to be successful academically.

wyager 5y ago
> and that when students with those high needs are concentrated they are less likely to have them met. This is totally opposite to my experience in public school through age 11. I never got the advanced instruction I needed, trying to mix like 4-6 stddev of ability in a single classroom never worked, and no one on the low end really benefitted from it.
- dwater 5y ago
  Your experience is not the issue I was addressing and it's not really the subject of the original article. I, and in my interpretation the article, was talking about the problem of education not providing the opportunity of success for those of lower means that has typically been considered the "American Dream". Your anecdote does not appear to contradict my statement. I made a statement about students with high needs being concentrated in a class or school overwhelming the system, and you made a statement about being a single student with exceptional ability in what I interpreted to be a typical American classroom setting not getting personalized instruction.

by dwater 5y ago

wyager 5y ago

> and that when students with those high needs are concentrated they are less likely to have them met. This is totally opposite to my experience in public school through age 11. I never got the advanced instruction I needed, trying to mix like 4-6 stddev of ability in a single classroom never worked, and no one on the low end really benefitted from it.

dwater 5y ago
Your experience is not the issue I was addressing and it's not really the subject of the original article. I, and in my interpretation the article, was talking about the problem of education not providing the opportunity of success for those of lower means that has typically been considered the "American Dream". Your anecdote does not appear to contradict my statement. I made a statement about students with high needs being concentrated in a class or school overwhelming the system, and you made a statement about being a single student with exceptional ability in what I interpreted to be a typical American classroom setting not getting personalized instruction.