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I think you're being a bit flippant here, dismissing out of hand a point that she's not making with some examples that are only tangentially relevant. Google w
by redthrowaway 15y ago
I think you're being a bit flippant here, dismissing out of hand a point that she's not making with some examples that are only tangentially relevant.
Google was "just" another search engine, sure. But it was far better than any of the other search engines out there. You can't say that of the groupon clones. They're all slightly different ways of doing Groupon, and none of them at this point look like they're offering any significant advantage over eachother. They may be more or less sustainable or profitable than Groupon, but they aren't game changers in the sense that Google was.
She wasn't complaining that startups have exits, she was complaining that startups are being designed around exits. None of the counter-examples you listed, nor any established company that anyone can name off hand, was designed for an exit. You can look at the guys who did <s>gmail</s> Google Maps* or Youtube and say yes, they got a good exit, but both companies were designed to do something new, and their exit followed from that. A lot of startups these days seem to be designed to show off design skills and the ability to write an app, rather than actually do something unique and useful.
Which brings me to your last point. Writing Basic interpreters for hobbyists wasn't trivial in the sense that the author meant. Finding a cupcake or sharing a photo is trivial: it doesn't much change anyone's life, and it's been done a thousand times before. It's trivial in the sense that a fart app for the iPhone is trivial. Microsoft's innovation was not that it could write basic interpreters, as people wrote basic interpreters for new architectures all the time. Their innovation was that they were an independent software firm who contracted their services out to hardware manufacturers. This is how they came to land the DOS contract with IBM that catapulted them to success. That innovation was as big as the innovation where someone first said, "why are we hosting this on a server in the basement? Why don't we throw it up on some server out there that doesn't care where we are or what device we're using to access it?"
If you look at any of the big tech companies around today, they got their start by doing something either a) no one had done before, or b) an order of magnitude better than anyone had ever done it. Most of the startups you see today don't make any effort at a) or b), but they are c) designed to be flipped in a talent acquisition. This is what the author was complaining about, and if you don't accept it as a legitimate criticism then you at least have to address her actual point.
*Edit: see response from protagonist_h
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- protagonist_h 15y ago> guys who did gmail or Youtube and say yes, they got a good exit as far as I know gmail was built at Google internally, it wasn't an acquired startup.
- redthrowaway 15y agoYou are correct. I was thinking of Google Maps.
- 6ren 15y agoJust a little irony: gmail was created (at Google) by Paul Buchheit, who is now... a YC partner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Buchheit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Buchheit Google itself was focussed on doing something worthwhile - a significant factor in their success was they had a simple, clear homepage, that was just for search - instead of a portal, covered in distracting stuff. They didn't engage in pay-for-placements, so their search results were objective. They were fast (turns out people really value speed). And pagerank was somewhat better (I did comparisons at the time, and search quality was pretty similar - but google felt much better to use because of the other factors). The competing search engines were focussed on monetizing users, instead of doing something useful for them. I think she's claiming that few startups are acting like google did. Yet, google would likely have succeeded as a YC startup, because YC emphasises "building something people want", as opposed to being driven by a business model. YC is attempting to productize startups - to find the rules that maximize startup success. The experimental approach of "lean startups"; trying something fast, then iterating; pivoting all seem to be sensible, and seem to be working. But whenever you have rules, there's possibilities in a complex world that escape them - and that may be where the greatest breakthroughs are. It's true that young people are less familiar with real-world problems (in general, not just in the third world) - yet, many game-changing startups seems to have been founded by young people: apple, microsoft, google etc. Personally, I very much like the idea of changing the world, doing something valuable and not just to make money. Many entrepreneurs have advised that startups are so difficult that money isn't enough of a motivator to get you through. So, in that sense, I agree with her.