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I am a man, and I don't want to go in to the same bathroom as 5 other men, especially not of they are a group and drunk. The reason is simple: I have found it m

by bjoli 5y ago

I am a man, and I don't want to go in to the same bathroom as 5 other men, especially not of they are a group and drunk. The reason is simple: I have found it much more common for men to take pleasure in having power over other people by threat of violence. They are assholes of course, but that shit is pretty common. I would even claim that anyone that says otherwise probably never did more than 4 pub rounds. Or went to a public school.

read_if_gay_ 5y ago
There’s also actual data that black people commit an outsized percentage of violent crime in the US yet any statement like this with “black” substituted for “men” would be downvoted into oblivion. The common argument is that it’s really society’s mistreatment of black people which is to blame for the criminality. Why is that same argument not applied here?
- jsaflas 5y ago
  Let's concede your argument that Black men are more dangerous than white men (I don't think so, at least not due to genetic differences). At best the data shows a factor of 2 more violent. Men are more violent than women by 2 orders of magnitude. And, unlike your example, there is no doubt its physiological in nature We have testicles and therefore are frothing with testosterone. And it's not unique to humans; farmers castrate bulls to make them docile in an ox team.
  - read_if_gay_ 5y ago
    > Men are more violent than women by 2 orders of magnitude Natives are more violent than Asians by a full order of magnitude, too. Should Asians demand separate restrooms from Natives? > And, unlike your example, there is no doubt its physiological in nature No doubt all of it is physiological? Because... testosterone? While, if data points towards some race being more violent, then it’s a mere “I don’t think so”? I think such a big claim needs a better explanation.
CRConrad 5y ago
> I am a man, and I don't want to go in to the same bathroom as 5 other men, especially not of they are a group and drunk. The reason is simple: I have found it much more common for men to take pleasure in having power over other people by threat of violence. Five drunk guys at the urinal? Heck, there's reason enough to avoid that just because they're liable to piss all over your shoes.

by bjoli 5y ago

read_if_gay_ 5y ago

There’s also actual data that black people commit an outsized percentage of violent crime in the US yet any statement like this with “black” substituted for “men” would be downvoted into oblivion. The common argument is that it’s really society’s mistreatment of black people which is to blame for the criminality. Why is that same argument not applied here?

jsaflas 5y ago
Let's concede your argument that Black men are more dangerous than white men (I don't think so, at least not due to genetic differences). At best the data shows a factor of 2 more violent. Men are more violent than women by 2 orders of magnitude. And, unlike your example, there is no doubt its physiological in nature We have testicles and therefore are frothing with testosterone. And it's not unique to humans; farmers castrate bulls to make them docile in an ox team.
- read_if_gay_ 5y ago
  > Men are more violent than women by 2 orders of magnitude Natives are more violent than Asians by a full order of magnitude, too. Should Asians demand separate restrooms from Natives? > And, unlike your example, there is no doubt its physiological in nature No doubt all of it is physiological? Because... testosterone? While, if data points towards some race being more violent, then it’s a mere “I don’t think so”? I think such a big claim needs a better explanation.

CRConrad 5y ago

> I am a man, and I don't want to go in to the same bathroom as 5 other men, especially not of they are a group and drunk. The reason is simple: I have found it much more common for men to take pleasure in having power over other people by threat of violence. Five drunk guys at the urinal? Heck, there's reason enough to avoid that just because they're liable to piss all over your shoes.