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Please don't link to websites that snub Europeans with the infamous "Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors

by tromp 5y ago

Please don't link to websites that snub Europeans with the infamous "Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws."

viro 5y ago
How about you fix ur laws then and stop banning EU companies from using US companies.
- bingidingi 5y ago
  EU companies can do business with US companies as long as they're following the law. Thousands of companies and websites have no problem doing so.
  - viro 5y ago
    Tell that to the companies fined for using mail chimp. You might to look up the regulatory requirements to "follow the law". when it comes to EU companies using services from US based companies. Even if the data never leaves the EU...
    - bingidingi 5y ago
      AFAIK They weren't ultimately fined, just warned... and it was one company. They were warned because they were transferring email addresses to a company that falls under US Surveillance law and there weren't any relevant legal protections in place... and the company facing the fine never did any due diligence to check. If you run a business and don't consult a lawyer about privacy laws you're taking a big risk... many countries have laws that you could easily run afoul, even other states in the US.
onychomys 5y ago
But how would somebody not in Europe know that the website does that?
suifbwish 5y ago
I don’t blame any website for protecting themselves against the moronic laws of other nations. It’s not ok for a government to presume it’s right to fine companies in another sovereign nation just because the company servers maintain data about who used their services when it was the voluntary action of the individuals using the services that caused the collection of data. That’s like going into someone’s shop and then trying to sue them because their security cameras filmed you.
MaxBarraclough 5y ago
If you see the GDPR block page (as I did), here's the Outline.com version: https://outline.com/Sc93ds https://outline.com/Sc93ds

by tromp 5y ago

viro 5y ago

How about you fix ur laws then and stop banning EU companies from using US companies.

bingidingi 5y ago
EU companies can do business with US companies as long as they're following the law. Thousands of companies and websites have no problem doing so.
- viro 5y ago
  Tell that to the companies fined for using mail chimp. You might to look up the regulatory requirements to "follow the law". when it comes to EU companies using services from US based companies. Even if the data never leaves the EU...
  - bingidingi 5y ago
    AFAIK They weren't ultimately fined, just warned... and it was one company. They were warned because they were transferring email addresses to a company that falls under US Surveillance law and there weren't any relevant legal protections in place... and the company facing the fine never did any due diligence to check. If you run a business and don't consult a lawyer about privacy laws you're taking a big risk... many countries have laws that you could easily run afoul, even other states in the US.

onychomys 5y ago

But how would somebody not in Europe know that the website does that?

suifbwish 5y ago

I don’t blame any website for protecting themselves against the moronic laws of other nations. It’s not ok for a government to presume it’s right to fine companies in another sovereign nation just because the company servers maintain data about who used their services when it was the voluntary action of the individuals using the services that caused the collection of data. That’s like going into someone’s shop and then trying to sue them because their security cameras filmed you.

MaxBarraclough 5y ago

If you see the GDPR block page (as I did), here's the Outline.com version: https://outline.com/Sc93ds https://outline.com/Sc93ds