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Thank you for being polite, but IMHO my post wasn’t tonally any different than the GP, ergo your indignation is misplaced. Since you asked, I speak with the ex

Thank you for being polite, but IMHO my post wasn’t tonally any different than the GP, ergo your indignation is misplaced. Since you asked, I speak with the experience of starting 3 businesses across Pharma, Defense and Media industries. I have also been involved in hiring multiple people across sectors, both in tech and non-tech jobs. As you also know, for defense that involves White-as-Wonderbread US citizens only, I also have interviewed almost exclusively from a certain complexion-gender combination club. Thus have formed my own pattern recognition, with an n of several hundred. If you are open to listening I can share a few illustrative anecdotes. Admittedly my posts are just opinions as I can only offer my own perspective. Although this study, and multiple others, seems to support my viewpoint. p.s. Truth hurts.

BeFlatXIII 5y ago
I wonder if the pharma & defense is why you encountered so many entitled and incompetent wannabe programmers.
- DistressedDrone 5y ago
  As a programmer with morals, I would never work in pharma, defense or media. I can't be the only one.
  - Nicksil 5y ago
    I'm curious to hear to objection(s) to working in "pharma" if you have the time.
    - DistressedDrone 5y ago
      Well, it's all relative. Assuming all corporations are equally amoral (or close enough), defense means war profiteering, whereas (traditional) media is a blight on our society that has largely abandoned any pretense of social function and actively holds us back by playing on our collective fears. On the other hand, pharma as a concept certainly needs to exist to save lives. As a Canadian, pharma is not so bad here, but I believe their existence as a for-profit* entity is contrary to the purpose of universal healthcare, which I think is a common enough sentiment. American pharma, however, actively profits from the inequality inherent to the (rather evil) lack of universal healthcare system. Any positives for society seem strictly incidental, as exemplified by the price of insulin.
      - Nicksil 5y ago
        I could not agree with you more regarding media. And no, not "big media" just media. It's absolutely miserable and has let us all down. I also agree with your point regarding profiteering. This behavior can be observed in many industries, not just pharmaceutical, but it seems a more egregious violation when it affects our health or the well-being of someone we know. Your comment grabbed my attention because I couldn't immediately think of anything to support the sentiment of it being immoral to work in the pharmaceutical industry so I was naturally curious to find out. Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.

BeFlatXIII 5y ago

I wonder if the pharma & defense is why you encountered so many entitled and incompetent wannabe programmers.

DistressedDrone 5y ago
As a programmer with morals, I would never work in pharma, defense or media. I can't be the only one.
- Nicksil 5y ago
  I'm curious to hear to objection(s) to working in "pharma" if you have the time.
  - DistressedDrone 5y ago
    Well, it's all relative. Assuming all corporations are equally amoral (or close enough), defense means war profiteering, whereas (traditional) media is a blight on our society that has largely abandoned any pretense of social function and actively holds us back by playing on our collective fears. On the other hand, pharma as a concept certainly needs to exist to save lives. As a Canadian, pharma is not so bad here, but I believe their existence as a for-profit* entity is contrary to the purpose of universal healthcare, which I think is a common enough sentiment. American pharma, however, actively profits from the inequality inherent to the (rather evil) lack of universal healthcare system. Any positives for society seem strictly incidental, as exemplified by the price of insulin.
    - Nicksil 5y ago
      I could not agree with you more regarding media. And no, not "big media" just media. It's absolutely miserable and has let us all down. I also agree with your point regarding profiteering. This behavior can be observed in many industries, not just pharmaceutical, but it seems a more egregious violation when it affects our health or the well-being of someone we know. Your comment grabbed my attention because I couldn't immediately think of anything to support the sentiment of it being immoral to work in the pharmaceutical industry so I was naturally curious to find out. Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.