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From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tatto
by bethecloud 5y ago
From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm.
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https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1200864283766251521?s=20 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...
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- dntrkv 5y agoWhy would anyone want him dead? I don't think anyone cared about him that much.
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- weare138 5y agoThis. The guy was just some drug-addled tech industry has been that shilled crypto scams and dodged his taxes. I think all those bathsalts were making him paranoid.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoIf people had reason to kill him, it would likely be that he knew scandalous information. The public wouldn't really know that people cared about him or what that information was. I have no idea if McAfee had such knowledge, but "I don't know any reason why someone would kill him" doesn't mean much.
- bena 5y agoWhat he knows is immaterial though. Whatever McAfee would "reveal" would just be his word. Which isn't great. Unless he knows how to obtain evidence of things, what he "knows" is just rambling. Movies have instilled in us this notion that simply knowing something is good enough. It's not. Let's pretend for a second that McAfee knew that certain public figures were, without a doubt, 100%, Satanic pedophile lizard people or whatever the flavor of the month panic is. If his only proof of this is that he saw Person X devour a live baby while molesting children in the basement of a pizza parlor, it's kind of meaningless. It's not much better than just saying you know it because you believe it really strongly. The information he would have to know would be specific to uncover something in a way that people could actually act on that information. Otherwise, it's like what Bill Murray whispered in my ear after he painted my house last night, "No one will ever believe you".
- boomboomsubban 5y agoIt's not impossible that his word could provide evidence, he may know where (possibly metaphorical) bodies are buried.
- bena 5y agoHis word alone? No. It would have to be words to the effect that it would tell people where to look for actual evidence.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoYes, that's why I specified he may "know where the bodies are buried."
- dragonwriter 5y ago> It's not impossible that his word could provide evidence, he may know where (possibly metaphorical) bodies are buried. Yes, and even if not, testimony alone is evidence, even if it doesn't lead to other evidence. It may or may not be evidence that a trier of fact views as credible or sufficient on its own to meet the applicable standard of proof, but it is evidence.
- CRConrad 5y ago> he may know where (possibly metaphorical) bodies are buried. Because founding and running an anti-virus company for a while gets you invited to all the big shots' murder rampages...? Was he ever even a largish campaign contributor, or anything that might have got him hobnobbing with (people that later turned into) The Powers That Be? I've never heard anything such about him; have you?
- boomboomsubban 5y agoI'll repeat myself by saying "I have no idea if McAfee had such knowledge." You just can't say he didn't have some knowledge because you are unaware of any important information or connections he had.
- BTCOG 5y agoThis. Gonna be grand when he faked his death and paid off a couple prison guards 10+ BTC to escape and shows up elsewhere in a year or two. One can hope, anyway. Plus, he had to get out of eating his own dick. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1316801215083225096 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/131680121508322509...
- babypuncher 5y agoWhy would one hope for him to escape justice?
- shapefrog 5y agoBecause it is cruel and unusual to punish someone for hyperbole, severing a mans penis and making them eat it is not justice.
- babypuncher 5y agoI either responded to the wrong comment, or misinterpreted the one I replied to. I wrote that believing I was responding to a claim that it was a good thing that McAfee evaded arrest in Belize. He certainly shouldn't be made to eat his own genitalia, regardless of what he's done.
- dieortin 5y agoI don’t think prisons in Spain work like that.
- bshoemaker 5y agoThe more simple explanation would probably be "a person doing this doesn't have a firm grip on reality, and might be a suicide risk"
- Cyberdog 5y agoI have found that "I'll never kill myself. There's always something to live for" is something that is very easy for people who are safe and happy to say, and I pray that these people will always be safe and comfortable enough to not change their mind on this for their own sakes. When you're sitting in a tiny concrete box and looking at the very distinct possibility of spending the rest of your life in such a box, either metaphorically or, in McAfee's case, literally, the thought process is quite different. Yes, McAfee has had run-ins with the law before, but maybe he figured he wasn't going to get out of this situation so easily, and he didn't have that many more good years left in front of him, concrete box or no. Thus, I'm willing to accept this as a suicide unless and until compelling evidence otherwise surfaces.
- jonahss 5y agoadd to that: going through drug withdrawal while trapped in said box
- bronzeage 5y agoWhy does the box being in the U.S or Spain matter to him, he would literally be in a box anyway. From his twits it seems he already made peace with being jailed and even said that quote while in jail.
- CRConrad 5y ago> I have found that "I'll never kill myself. There's always something to live for" is something that is very easy for people who are safe and happy to say, and I pray that these people will always be safe and comfortable enough to not change their mind on this for their own sakes. Maybe it helps to remember having said it oneself? I mean, if you are so badly off that you contemplate suicide, then everyone else saying "there's always something to live for" may be easier to write off; like, "what do they know of my life?". But if you've used to say so yourself, then sure, you may now think "so obviously I was wrong then"... But still, you're you, so you do know a thing or three about your life, so you may perhaps still hang back and consider "but wait, maybe I'm wrong now, and not back then?". Maybe. At least feels like it should have a better chance than other saying it. So, hey, let's all remember to repeat this to ourselves now and then, mmkay?
- nabla9 5y agoAnyone who believes that IRS or SEC sends a hitman to kill people because they evade taxes or run fraudulent crypto schemes, needs to examine their head. McAfee was always paranoid. He was not a threat to the man. He also lied a lot and even admitted it many times.
- jbverschoor 5y agoTweet from last week: "My friends evaporated through fear of association. I have nothing. Yet, I regret nothing."
- okamiueru 5y agoAs cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.
- moralestapia 5y agoAs they saying goes, they dig their own graves.
- fridif 5y agoThe better questions are, did he deserve to be imprisoned and did he deserve to die?
- vbo 5y agoWhy is this downvoted? Was he actually convicted?
- tylersmith 5y agoHe was in jail pending extradition hearings. Extradition was approved today and he was soon to be relocated to the US to stand trial.
- dntrkv 5y ago> did he deserve to be imprisoned I mean, that's kinda what happens when you don't pay your taxes and run from the government. He would've gotten a trial if he didn't commit suicide. > did he deserve to die No, I don't think anyone deserves to die. But, the most likely case here is he did kill himself, in which case, it's kinda on him.
- tiernano 5y ago> No, I don't think anyone deserves to die. technically, everyone dies... the question should be, did he deserve to be killed, if he was (not saying he was) or did he deserve to think that was his only way out?
- chadlavi 5y agoyep, mental illness sure is sad.
- stusmall 5y agoThere was a ruling today approving his extradition to the US. US officials were about to get him and he was facing extremely serious charges. That's a really important bit of context to keep in mind before jumping to ideas that some shadowy "they" had him killed.
- TheAdamAndChe 5y agoThough it is also highly notable that he publicly posted "I'm not going to kill myself, and if I do then I was probably assassinated" before his death.
- dragontamer 5y agoThat was 2 years ago though. A lot in a person's life can change in just 2 years.
- TheAdamAndChe 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27609346 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27609346 He's also indicated much more recently that any "suicide" wouldn't be such.
- colordrops 5y agoVery strange that you are being down voted.
- babypuncher 5y agoThe man has spent most of his life lying and cheating, why would anyone believe him when he says this?
- dtech 5y agoThat's also 9 months ago, "before his death" is a bit misleading.
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- anshumankmr 5y agoHis body is probably not even cold yet and the conspiracy theories are piling up. On a Twitter thread, replies range from the usual RIPs to people claiming some dubious connection with Epstein, Clinton etc. Not claiming that you are, but I suspect many will use this as proof of something nefarious. Which it might be, but at least I feel that it is unlikely.
- duxup 5y agoIt feels like everything now starts with 'it's a conspiracy' for no reason and somehow everyone has to prove it isn't a conspiracy ... or it is assumed to be.
- duderific 5y agoOnce you believe nefarious actors are running things behind the scenes, it's pretty easy to apply that thinking to almost any scenario.
- MattGaiser 5y agoWhy kill someone they were about to get legitimately?
- celticninja 5y agoBecause whatever he says in a trial becomes public record and widely reported on.
- pfisch 5y agoMaybe I'm out of the loop, but who cares what he says? He is just a crazy person who dodged taxes.
- morelisp 5y agoUnfortunately like Shkreli, Trump, etc., he has amassed an army of angry young extremely online men who hung on his every word, and will now descend on the comments section.
- andruby 5y agoExtremely online men? I think the HN community has little overlap with the #FreeMcAfee club.
- morelisp 5y agoI guess it depends on how you define "little." You can peruse the comments here before they're flagged; it's a lot bigger overlap than any other community I'm in, including some of the worse ones like miniature wargaming or Emacs users.
- cwyers 5y agoI mean, they're posting in this thread right now. Maybe it's not a lot of them by percentage, but they're certainly vocal right now.
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- throwkeep 5y agoOctober, 2020 I am content in here. I have friends. The food is good. All is well. Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1316801215083225096 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/131680121508322509...
- ceejayoz 5y agoApril, 2021 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1386349870546620418 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/138634987054662041... > I have been imprisoned in Catalonia nearly 7 months. I speak no Catalan and little Spanish so human contact is limited. There are no entertainments - no escape from loneliness, from emptiness, from myself. > This has been the most trying period of my life. Turns out prison sucks after a while. As for the food, he changed his tune on that, too: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1391455539612225536 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/139145553961222553... > Most prison food in Spain is indistinguishable from rat shit in motor oil. The single exception is potato pie, which is only served on Saturdays. > Unfortunately today is Sunday.
- aazaa 5y agoHe never made good on this promise: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7qawy/john-mcafee-no-longer-willing-to-eat-his-dick-on-tv https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7qawy/john-mcafee-no-longer... Kind of undermines his credibility.
- shon 5y ago;D
- rmason 5y agoIn his last prison interview he said that all his money was gone, his friends had all abandoned him and yet he regretted nothing. Sure sounds like a last statement to me.
- VOSgqcSyGdPhGWP 5y agoAnd in late 2020: "I am content in here. I have friends. The food is good. All is well. Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine." https://archive.ph/peexn https://archive.ph/peexn
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- ceejayoz 5y agoHe said he'd eat his dick on live TV if Bitcoin didn't hit $500k by last year (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887012614131372032 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887012614131372032, https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887039604846714881 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887039604846714881, https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887024683379544065 https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/887024683379544065) so the track record on predictions... isn't great.
- elisaado 5y agoBecause twitter seems to be rate limiting access to this tweet ("Something went wrong, try reloading"), here is an archived version https://web.archive.org/web/20201005231441/https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1200864283766251521 https://web.archive.org/web/20201005231441/https://twitter.c...
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y agoMcAfee is an interesting person but I believe absolutely nothing that he says.
- JohnMcafee 5y ago$WHACKD
- aeturnum 5y agoThe trait that carried McAfee furthest was, in hindsight, his incredible talent as a hype man. He effectively created an image as a larger-than-life figure who those in power were afraid of and wished to stop. I have no trouble believing that people wanted him dead in general. He was credibly accused of both murder and sexual assault[1]. I am sure he was annoying to many officials, but most of the reports of death threats around McAfee were those experienced by the people he disliked. I think that the simplest and most straightforward explanation is that this tweet (and tattoo) were another promotional stunt for someone trying to get out of the charges against him. It would be another in a long line of claims McAfee made on various topics which had the effect of, however briefly, centering himself in the eye of the public. He wasn't adverse to extreme actions and I have no trouble believing that he would both get that tattoo and decide later to end his own life. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/12/12887124/john-mcafee-rape-murder-accusations-gringo-documentary-tiff https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/12/12887124/john-mcafee-rape...
- jahewson 5y agoWhat you have here is someone ruminating on and obsessing over themes of suicide. Sadly that’s exactly the kind of person who goes on to fall victim to that behaviour.