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I sympathise. Sadly society seems to be moving the other way recently: my gym and pool both have significant women's only hours and classes. My previous employe

I sympathise. Sadly society seems to be moving the other way recently: my gym and pool both have significant women's only hours and classes. My previous employer had women only sessions with the ceo to promote more women faster. There was a brief moment a few years ago when the government here (limey Britian) said people would be allowed to pick their gender without involving doctors/bureaucrats. I liked the idea, it's equality on steroids. Long queue for the ladies? Identify as a man for 5 minutes! Accidently go to the gym at 7 on a Wednesday? Be a girl for 90 minutes so you can work out! Link for when the policy was dropped https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/22/uk-government-drops-gender-self-identification-plan-for-trans-people https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/22/uk-governmen...

TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
> Long queue for the ladies? Identify as a man for 5 minutes! Accidently go to the gym at 7 on a Wednesday? Be a girl for 90 minutes so you can work out! I like this. I’ve already identified to my employer that I’m partially Black even though, to the best of my knowledge, I’m not. They can’t deny it and it only benefits them (they can increase their ratios of minority employers which is public data). I can choose to identify as black if I like.
- long_time_gone 5y ago
  ==I can choose to identify as black if I like.== What is the benefit for you? Is it trolling?
  - LatteLazy 5y ago
    I'm not OP. I generally answer the ethnicity question randomly. This is because: * I don't like be lumped into "white British" * the whole question is rude imho (why does the gym need to know my race and sexuality!?) * services I use shouldn't shouldn't lose "points" because of my colour/religion/sexuality/shoe-size
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    Let us say that the OP believes in reincarnation and believes that his soul is black, used to live in black bodies, and was mistakenly reincarnated into a white body on this occasion, but still feels black and carries memories of being black. Quite a lot of people on Earth believe in reincarnation and would find such a situation entirely possible. The question is, is a Western country obliged to respect a religious argument like this? Maybe yes. After all, race is said to be a social construct. Why not add reincarnation into the mix.
    - long_time_gone 5y ago
      This person willfully admitted they are not black, which is far different than your criteria of someone who "believes that his soul is black, used to live in black bodies, and was mistakenly reincarnated into a white body on this occasion, but still feels black and carries memories of being black." The analogy falls apart because the stance is based on trolling, not actual beliefs.
  - zo1 5y ago
    There are race-based laws in some countries that incentivize, prioritize and make legal the practice of hiring certain races over others. E.g.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment
- HideousKojima 5y ago
  Federal government gives small business grants and loans preference based on race and gender? I am now a black female.
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  I have a terrible problem: I actually am gay. But I hate identifying so at work because I don't want to be "the gay guy". I don't want to be promoted early to boost the company stats. I don't want people thinking I was promoted for that reason either. I don't know why anyone would want those things. I'm gay, but I'm here because I'm good at my job and I work hard. I'm taking your bonus, but not using my genitals, using my impressive mathematical skills! I am very happy to just be dumped into the same pool as everyone else (metaphorically and for swimming) /rant
dang 5y ago
Trolling will get you banned here. Please don't do this on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

TedDoesntTalk 5y ago

> Long queue for the ladies? Identify as a man for 5 minutes! Accidently go to the gym at 7 on a Wednesday? Be a girl for 90 minutes so you can work out! I like this. I’ve already identified to my employer that I’m partially Black even though, to the best of my knowledge, I’m not. They can’t deny it and it only benefits them (they can increase their ratios of minority employers which is public data). I can choose to identify as black if I like.

long_time_gone 5y ago
==I can choose to identify as black if I like.== What is the benefit for you? Is it trolling?
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  I'm not OP. I generally answer the ethnicity question randomly. This is because: * I don't like be lumped into "white British" * the whole question is rude imho (why does the gym need to know my race and sexuality!?) * services I use shouldn't shouldn't lose "points" because of my colour/religion/sexuality/shoe-size
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Let us say that the OP believes in reincarnation and believes that his soul is black, used to live in black bodies, and was mistakenly reincarnated into a white body on this occasion, but still feels black and carries memories of being black. Quite a lot of people on Earth believe in reincarnation and would find such a situation entirely possible. The question is, is a Western country obliged to respect a religious argument like this? Maybe yes. After all, race is said to be a social construct. Why not add reincarnation into the mix.
  - long_time_gone 5y ago
    This person willfully admitted they are not black, which is far different than your criteria of someone who "believes that his soul is black, used to live in black bodies, and was mistakenly reincarnated into a white body on this occasion, but still feels black and carries memories of being black." The analogy falls apart because the stance is based on trolling, not actual beliefs.
- zo1 5y ago
  There are race-based laws in some countries that incentivize, prioritize and make legal the practice of hiring certain races over others. E.g.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment
HideousKojima 5y ago
Federal government gives small business grants and loans preference based on race and gender? I am now a black female.
LatteLazy 5y ago
I have a terrible problem: I actually am gay. But I hate identifying so at work because I don't want to be "the gay guy". I don't want to be promoted early to boost the company stats. I don't want people thinking I was promoted for that reason either. I don't know why anyone would want those things. I'm gay, but I'm here because I'm good at my job and I work hard. I'm taking your bonus, but not using my genitals, using my impressive mathematical skills! I am very happy to just be dumped into the same pool as everyone else (metaphorically and for swimming) /rant

dang 5y ago

Trolling will get you banned here. Please don't do this on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html