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In my experience browsing HN almost daily, over the last year it has become something of an echo chamber for "anti woke" lines of thinking. I've seen little to

In my experience browsing HN almost daily, over the last year it has become something of an echo chamber for "anti woke" lines of thinking. I've seen little to no healthy discussion on the topic - by which I mean productive disagreement. It's usually just a top comment decrying twitter/etc and then a pile on of agreement.

zo1 5y ago
It's entirely plausible that most were thinking that but didn't say anything for fear of backlash. If so then the mere act of them speaking what's really on their mind is, what I would argue as, "healthy discussion". Either way, I've been finding a lot of what's being said here today as interesting and mentally engaging on some level.
fagbag123 5y ago
> HN ... an echo chamber for "anti woke" lines of thinking Nigger are you retarded
shkkmo 5y ago
I would disagree. I think that there is a strong pro free speech group, most of who are also literally woke, but who also want to keep the overton window broad. There are, of course, some pretty reptitive comment threads, but you can collapse those and generally find more interesting discussion somewhere (don't forget there are often multiple pages of comments.)
weakfish 5y ago
I'm in the same boat. Its a bit tiresome and I feel it's getting worse (?) Fwiw, current college student. My school isn't particularly "woke" beyond having a LGBT support center, but that strikes me as common decency rather than wokeness.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
I disagree with this only because I frequently get downvoted for comments that don't "fit the narrative." Could I be a little less brash in the way I word it? Sure, but I keep vulgarities at a minimum to at least come across as somewhat refined. People like me are very much liberal, left leaning, and dislike fascism. But as of now, it feels like freedom of speech is more of "freedom to speak about only certain things." Simply because so many people are kowtowing to these zealots. Of course you're going to get more vocal people opposed to this line of thinking. It's the exact same thing left leaning people like myself got away from in our psychotic religious upbringings. Only for us to see the exact same thing on the left, but with even more drastic and unfair measures.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  Oh, the silent downvoting, I noticed it once than more. And on two occassions, it seemed as if somebody was so vindictive as to visit my comment history and downvote tens of older comments from threads that were a few days old. At least I cannot explain the unexpected loss of precisely 1 karma point from multiple comments in multiple threads at once. I wonder how such people look into the mirror without feeling even a slight pang of doubt about themselves.

zo1 5y ago

It's entirely plausible that most were thinking that but didn't say anything for fear of backlash. If so then the mere act of them speaking what's really on their mind is, what I would argue as, "healthy discussion". Either way, I've been finding a lot of what's being said here today as interesting and mentally engaging on some level.

fagbag123 5y ago

> HN ... an echo chamber for "anti woke" lines of thinking Nigger are you retarded

shkkmo 5y ago

I would disagree. I think that there is a strong pro free speech group, most of who are also literally woke, but who also want to keep the overton window broad. There are, of course, some pretty reptitive comment threads, but you can collapse those and generally find more interesting discussion somewhere (don't forget there are often multiple pages of comments.)

weakfish 5y ago

I'm in the same boat. Its a bit tiresome and I feel it's getting worse (?) Fwiw, current college student. My school isn't particularly "woke" beyond having a LGBT support center, but that strikes me as common decency rather than wokeness.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

I disagree with this only because I frequently get downvoted for comments that don't "fit the narrative." Could I be a little less brash in the way I word it? Sure, but I keep vulgarities at a minimum to at least come across as somewhat refined. People like me are very much liberal, left leaning, and dislike fascism. But as of now, it feels like freedom of speech is more of "freedom to speak about only certain things." Simply because so many people are kowtowing to these zealots. Of course you're going to get more vocal people opposed to this line of thinking. It's the exact same thing left leaning people like myself got away from in our psychotic religious upbringings. Only for us to see the exact same thing on the left, but with even more drastic and unfair measures.

inglor_cz 5y ago
Oh, the silent downvoting, I noticed it once than more. And on two occassions, it seemed as if somebody was so vindictive as to visit my comment history and downvote tens of older comments from threads that were a few days old. At least I cannot explain the unexpected loss of precisely 1 karma point from multiple comments in multiple threads at once. I wonder how such people look into the mirror without feeling even a slight pang of doubt about themselves.