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> house intact trans-women Why would a rapist stop wanting to rape regardless of the state of their genitals? Is sexual violation with a penis so much more ho

> house intact trans-women Why would a rapist stop wanting to rape regardless of the state of their genitals? Is sexual violation with a penis so much more horrific than other violations it deserves special consideration?

MyHypatia 5y ago
Yes, because women can get pregnant. Then not only do you have to deal with trauma of your sexual assault, you have to deal with the trauma of having a child born from that sexual assault or have an abortion.
- SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
  So, if someone were infertile it would reduce the threat and be acceptable? You said intact, not fertile.
vmception 5y ago
Its also about the possibility of being impregnated Just personalize the idea, your sister or female significant other was thrown in jail, and then housed with a male who is a trans woman who has sex with her with or without her consent and creates an ongoing consequence that is impossible if trans women were not there That would be the expectation you would start with to form a conclusion Sex in male prisons does not result in pregnancy
- freemint 5y ago
  In good faith and not as whataboutism: Do you think being forced to impregnate someone against your will is similarly horrific although less burdensome for the first 9 months?
  - vmception 5y ago
    Yes What circumstance made you think of that?
- werber 5y ago
  Some trans men get pregnant and some trans men commit crimes. It’s interesting that conversations on gender identity tend to zero in on trans women
  - vmception 5y ago
    That was the prompt so the replies will be towards that
- Latty 5y ago
  By this logic, it would be fine if they were infertile, which is obvious nonsense. Sexual assault does not hit some magic breaking point where it becomes an unacceptable risk at the chance of impregnation. If there is a significant risk of sexual assault, then the prison has fundamentally failed and that is the thing that needs fixing. It simply doesn't matter if someone is trans or not, cis people are just as capable of sexual assault, and prisons must be protecting all inmates, not only cis-women, from assault.
  - vmception 5y ago
    the rest of us are starting with the premise that prisons have all failed equally, and find them equally incompetent at any additional vector of assault such as the one that introduces pregnancy its not nearly as gendered as you are making it out to be, this a condition statement satisfied by some gendered combinations
hackinthebochs 5y ago
>Why would a rapist stop wanting to rape regardless of the state of their genitals? Testosterone is correlated with sexual aggression. Chemical castration is a treatment for rapists after all.

MyHypatia 5y ago

Yes, because women can get pregnant. Then not only do you have to deal with trauma of your sexual assault, you have to deal with the trauma of having a child born from that sexual assault or have an abortion.

SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
So, if someone were infertile it would reduce the threat and be acceptable? You said intact, not fertile.

vmception 5y ago

Its also about the possibility of being impregnated Just personalize the idea, your sister or female significant other was thrown in jail, and then housed with a male who is a trans woman who has sex with her with or without her consent and creates an ongoing consequence that is impossible if trans women were not there That would be the expectation you would start with to form a conclusion Sex in male prisons does not result in pregnancy

freemint 5y ago
In good faith and not as whataboutism: Do you think being forced to impregnate someone against your will is similarly horrific although less burdensome for the first 9 months?
- vmception 5y ago
  Yes What circumstance made you think of that?
werber 5y ago
Some trans men get pregnant and some trans men commit crimes. It’s interesting that conversations on gender identity tend to zero in on trans women
- vmception 5y ago
  That was the prompt so the replies will be towards that
Latty 5y ago
By this logic, it would be fine if they were infertile, which is obvious nonsense. Sexual assault does not hit some magic breaking point where it becomes an unacceptable risk at the chance of impregnation. If there is a significant risk of sexual assault, then the prison has fundamentally failed and that is the thing that needs fixing. It simply doesn't matter if someone is trans or not, cis people are just as capable of sexual assault, and prisons must be protecting all inmates, not only cis-women, from assault.
- vmception 5y ago
  the rest of us are starting with the premise that prisons have all failed equally, and find them equally incompetent at any additional vector of assault such as the one that introduces pregnancy its not nearly as gendered as you are making it out to be, this a condition statement satisfied by some gendered combinations

hackinthebochs 5y ago

>Why would a rapist stop wanting to rape regardless of the state of their genitals? Testosterone is correlated with sexual aggression. Chemical castration is a treatment for rapists after all.