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Hello! I've been a fan of the work both of you do for a while (fraidycat, etc.) and have been pretty excited about multiverse ever since you first started talki

Hello! I've been a fan of the work both of you do for a while (fraidycat, etc.) and have been pretty excited about multiverse ever since you first started talking about it. However, one thing that has always rubbed me sort of wrong about your stuff is that, as far as I understand, you're employed by Facebook Labs (https://usesthis.com/interviews/kicks.condor/ https://usesthis.com/interviews/kicks.condor/). This interview was the only place I've ever seen that mentioned (and granted it was Nov of last year), so it may no longer be true, but I've always found myself reticent to engage with some of your social experiments because they may be a veiled Facebook R+D project/something that FB would take over if it ever got "too" popular. I'm hoping you could clear up your relationship to Facebook here and the stuff kicks does - I do truly love all the things you two come up with, but want some peace of mind that I'm not directly helping Facebook build it's roadmap. Thanks!

kixiQu 5y ago
I'm >90% sure that was a joke. In the same way that kickscondor.com was not actually seized by the FBI for Kicks Condor being stolen IP from a National Treasure sequel.
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kickscondor 5y ago
Yes it's true that I was invented by Facebook and that my website was shutdown by Disney (and then the FBI - as the other commenter points out - for the Disney shutdown turned out to have been a hoax.) This is all terrible and I hate my origin story - I agree completely. I understand if you need to bow out on this one. I rub myself the wrong way a lot of the time.
- fumar 5y ago
  “Invented by Facebook.” Does that mean this is a FB labs project or this is a personal project?
  - kickscondor 5y ago
    Multiverse.plus is a personal project (of glitchyowl and mine.) And I am a personal project of Facebook Labs. Or possibly the CIA? I get email from two agents who claim to be my handlers and to "come home already". But I don't really know whose story to believe. Can't just look in the mirror to find out. Ok wow - I am rubbing myself the right direction now!
    - jiofih 5y ago
      What is happening here?
      - kickscondor 5y ago
        We are six levels deep in an HN thread. It’s not looking good.
      - Jarwain 5y ago
        Afaict from the GP link, kicks condor isn't a person, but rather a brother and sister playing a person that also wraps up all the relevant attendant lawyers or other roles that go into maintaining the character. Seems like a persona, created as the amalgamation of personalities, yet self aware of the digital/ephemeral representation of the character. Feels high-concept and interesting to me, but definitely confusing if you aren't expecting this perspective
        jiofih 5y ago
        Oh. So it is indeed a Facebook Labs research project / persona. I thought that was sarcasm. Puts this thing under a whole new perspective. EDIT: I’m utterly confused now. It does seem to be pure sarcasm. Can not find any other mention of this, or who is behind Kickscondor at all. Where did the parent comment’s claim that he works at Facebook come from, if we have no idea who this is?
        fumar 5y ago

kixiQu 5y ago

I'm >90% sure that was a joke. In the same way that kickscondor.com was not actually seized by the FBI for Kicks Condor being stolen IP from a National Treasure sequel.

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kickscondor 5y ago

Yes it's true that I was invented by Facebook and that my website was shutdown by Disney (and then the FBI - as the other commenter points out - for the Disney shutdown turned out to have been a hoax.) This is all terrible and I hate my origin story - I agree completely. I understand if you need to bow out on this one. I rub myself the wrong way a lot of the time.

fumar 5y ago
“Invented by Facebook.” Does that mean this is a FB labs project or this is a personal project?
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Multiverse.plus is a personal project (of glitchyowl and mine.) And I am a personal project of Facebook Labs. Or possibly the CIA? I get email from two agents who claim to be my handlers and to "come home already". But I don't really know whose story to believe. Can't just look in the mirror to find out. Ok wow - I am rubbing myself the right direction now!
  - jiofih 5y ago
    What is happening here?
    - kickscondor 5y ago
      We are six levels deep in an HN thread. It’s not looking good.
    - Jarwain 5y ago
      Afaict from the GP link, kicks condor isn't a person, but rather a brother and sister playing a person that also wraps up all the relevant attendant lawyers or other roles that go into maintaining the character. Seems like a persona, created as the amalgamation of personalities, yet self aware of the digital/ephemeral representation of the character. Feels high-concept and interesting to me, but definitely confusing if you aren't expecting this perspective
      - jiofih 5y ago
        Oh. So it is indeed a Facebook Labs research project / persona. I thought that was sarcasm. Puts this thing under a whole new perspective. EDIT: I’m utterly confused now. It does seem to be pure sarcasm. Can not find any other mention of this, or who is behind Kickscondor at all. Where did the parent comment’s claim that he works at Facebook come from, if we have no idea who this is?
        fumar 5y ago