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Sorry to break it to you, but chromosomes are prescriptive. You cannot simply ignore that there are differences between X and Y chromosomes. Society's distinc

Sorry to break it to you, but chromosomes are prescriptive. You cannot simply ignore that there are differences between X and Y chromosomes. Society's distinctions between the sexes is not arbitrary. Why do we have separate bathrooms in public but not at home? Why do we have segregated sports? Why do we celebrate feminists but not MRAs? It's because there is a real-world difference.

tsimionescu 5y ago
Chromosomes are not detectable from the outside. Phenotype is not entirely dependent on genotype. Trans women may suffer from both certain "female" diseases and certain "male" diseases.
dang 5y ago
Flamewar tropes like "Sorry to break it to you" are not acceptable on HN in any case and certainly not on a painfully divisive and inflammatory topic like this. If you can't keep in mind that you're talking to other human beings who may have deep and good reasons to feel differently than you do on a topic, then please don't post here. This is a difficult enough topic without poisoning it with swipes and snark. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
jbay808 5y ago
> Sorry to break it to you, but chromosomes are prescriptive. ... Except when they aren't. Even biology doesn't paint such a simple picture. Chromosomes are important, but not as important as hormones -- and how the body responds to those hormones. If you're not aware of CAIS, it is probably the clearest way for you to re-evaluate your view that chromosomes are prescriptive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitiv... Edit - puzzled by the downvotes here. Do you know what chromosomes you have? Have you checked? If you do, there's a nonzero chance that they aren't the chromosomes you're expecting to find. If you were to test your chromosomes and found they didn't match your expectations, you would either have to change your belief about the prescriptiveness of chromosomes, or your belief about your gender. Which belief would you change? Which belief do you hold more strongly?
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tsimionescu 5y ago

Chromosomes are not detectable from the outside. Phenotype is not entirely dependent on genotype. Trans women may suffer from both certain "female" diseases and certain "male" diseases.

dang 5y ago

Flamewar tropes like "Sorry to break it to you" are not acceptable on HN in any case and certainly not on a painfully divisive and inflammatory topic like this. If you can't keep in mind that you're talking to other human beings who may have deep and good reasons to feel differently than you do on a topic, then please don't post here. This is a difficult enough topic without poisoning it with swipes and snark. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

jbay808 5y ago

> Sorry to break it to you, but chromosomes are prescriptive. ... Except when they aren't. Even biology doesn't paint such a simple picture. Chromosomes are important, but not as important as hormones -- and how the body responds to those hormones. If you're not aware of CAIS, it is probably the clearest way for you to re-evaluate your view that chromosomes are prescriptive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitiv... Edit - puzzled by the downvotes here. Do you know what chromosomes you have? Have you checked? If you do, there's a nonzero chance that they aren't the chromosomes you're expecting to find. If you were to test your chromosomes and found they didn't match your expectations, you would either have to change your belief about the prescriptiveness of chromosomes, or your belief about your gender. Which belief would you change? Which belief do you hold more strongly?

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