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In a shared space, should the people that share that space have the right to exclude someone if it makes the majority feel unsafe? What about if it makes just
by gorgoiler 5y ago
In a shared space, should the people that share that space have the right to exclude someone if it makes the majority feel unsafe? What about if it makes just one of them feel unsafe?
If one person says they feel unsafe, should they be asked to leave instead of the newcomer, with whom the majority are ambivalent?
Basically what I’m getting at is what’s the algebra / game theory of creating safe spaces based on tolerance and intolerance?
- celeritascelery 5y agoWhen ever I see someone talk about “safe space”, I ask myself, “safe space for which ideas?” The things that are safe to discuss are different at thanksgiving dinner, a college designated safe-space, a therapist’s office, or a church meeting. There is no such thing as a universal “safe space” for all ideas.
- avereveard 5y agoOstracizing people based solely on one own feeling sits squarely against the whole concept of presumption of innocence, it's the apotheosis of prejudices against coexistence.
- HideousKojima 5y agoPresumption of innocence is a legal presumption, and it exists there for very good reasons that would take too long to get into. Requiring such a presumption outside of a legal context in the way you're suggesting would undermine a different fundamental right, the freedom of association. People should have the right to associate (and disassociate) with whomever they like for whatever reasons they like, no matter how arbitrary or petty.
- avereveard 5y agoa and b want to associate, a want to associate with c, c don't want to associate with b, b doesn't care as long as he can associate with a, as per the grandparent comment statement, given that neither a, b and c did anything reprehensible yet. everyone is free to act, but still a problem presents itself. what's the more just option for person a according to ethics and morals? that's the core of the conundrum, the right to associate and disassociate impacts other people freedoms, as such is the nature of interpersonal relations; of course individual have their individual freedom, but should A act on C prejudice, or in other word should C demand limits on A freedom (i.e. cancel culture) mind you, the issue is about C own personal perceived feeling of unsafeness, not on B having done anything against C.