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Delivery is expensive and network effects are valuable. Price-fixing is already illegal

toomuchtodo 5y ago
Delivery platforms can stay solvent due to capital markets longer than restaurants and drivers they exploit. Regulation is required.
- cryptofistMonk 5y ago
  And they will become irrelevant if there are no good restaurants on their platform
- neysofu 5y ago
  > Food delivery startups: Hey we'll handle delivery for you for a fee, sounds good? > Restaurants: Ok! / No, thanks. How is this exploitation? Please.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    https://ilsr.org/biting-back-delivery-apps-are-gobbling-up-restaurant-revenues-and-cities-have-had-enough/ https://ilsr.org/biting-back-delivery-apps-are-gobbling-up-r... https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ILSR_SpecialDelivery_Final.pdf https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ILSR_SpecialDeli... https://thecounter.org/grubhub-domain-purchases-thousands-shadow-sites/ https://thecounter.org/grubhub-domain-purchases-thousands-sh... https://www.eater.com/22228352/convenience-of-delivery-apps-destroying-restaurants-uber-eats-doordash-postmates https://www.eater.com/22228352/convenience-of-delivery-apps-... https://www.economicliberties.us/our-work/rescuing-restaurants-how-to-protect-restaurants-workers-and-communities-from-predatory-delivery-app-corporations/ https://www.economicliberties.us/our-work/rescuing-restauran... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/technology/delivery-apps-restaurants-fees-virus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/technology/delivery-apps-...
    - cryptofistMonk 5y ago
      Exactly the point - when apps charge too much, people will complain and alternatives will arise. From your second source: > "Dozens of locally owned services are proving there's a better alternative"
      - toomuchtodo 5y ago
        Absolutely, local platform competitors can pop up, but the network effects of national platforms is powerful and their influence and actions damaging in the interim. We may just disagree on this, and that's to be expected. As previously stated, I believe more regulation is required, even if that puts national platforms out of business.
        robertlagrant 5y ago
        In the interim is fine. They also provide a vital role in establishing how online shopping for food should work. It's easy to copycat after, as is evidenced by even local providers being able to do it.
standardUser 5y ago
Food delivery has been around and profitable for generations. And there are several well-known apps in most markets. And just because a thing is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Delivery platforms can stay solvent due to capital markets longer than restaurants and drivers they exploit. Regulation is required.

cryptofistMonk 5y ago
And they will become irrelevant if there are no good restaurants on their platform
neysofu 5y ago
> Food delivery startups: Hey we'll handle delivery for you for a fee, sounds good? > Restaurants: Ok! / No, thanks. How is this exploitation? Please.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  https://ilsr.org/biting-back-delivery-apps-are-gobbling-up-restaurant-revenues-and-cities-have-had-enough/ https://ilsr.org/biting-back-delivery-apps-are-gobbling-up-r... https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ILSR_SpecialDelivery_Final.pdf https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ILSR_SpecialDeli... https://thecounter.org/grubhub-domain-purchases-thousands-shadow-sites/ https://thecounter.org/grubhub-domain-purchases-thousands-sh... https://www.eater.com/22228352/convenience-of-delivery-apps-destroying-restaurants-uber-eats-doordash-postmates https://www.eater.com/22228352/convenience-of-delivery-apps-... https://www.economicliberties.us/our-work/rescuing-restaurants-how-to-protect-restaurants-workers-and-communities-from-predatory-delivery-app-corporations/ https://www.economicliberties.us/our-work/rescuing-restauran... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/technology/delivery-apps-restaurants-fees-virus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/technology/delivery-apps-...
  - cryptofistMonk 5y ago
    Exactly the point - when apps charge too much, people will complain and alternatives will arise. From your second source: > "Dozens of locally owned services are proving there's a better alternative"
    - toomuchtodo 5y ago
      Absolutely, local platform competitors can pop up, but the network effects of national platforms is powerful and their influence and actions damaging in the interim. We may just disagree on this, and that's to be expected. As previously stated, I believe more regulation is required, even if that puts national platforms out of business.
      - robertlagrant 5y ago
        In the interim is fine. They also provide a vital role in establishing how online shopping for food should work. It's easy to copycat after, as is evidenced by even local providers being able to do it.

standardUser 5y ago

Food delivery has been around and profitable for generations. And there are several well-known apps in most markets. And just because a thing is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen.