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> So what needs to be done, is to give a voucher to every parent to decide where to go. So, we just say 'fuck all the kids who were born in the wrong zip code'

> So what needs to be done, is to give a voucher to every parent to decide where to go. So, we just say 'fuck all the kids who were born in the wrong zip code' and can't overcome the distance gate to go to a better school with the voucher?

whb07 5y ago
Well seeing as how the biggest failing schools are in large metros this argument doesn’t hold much does it? One of the biggest school system is in NYC and the average student graduating high school is reading at a 10 year old level or less. One could also imagine some sort of large vehicle whose sole purpose is to provide rides for students to attend the schools. Let me see if I can do some more research on such a scheme. Perhaps, one could paint them a vivid color, so that people could know they are “educational vehicles”. Maybe yellow? I think I’ve seen such a system before… Lastly, right now you’re saying: “Born in the wrong zip? And the school is failing? Sucks to be you! Not my problem” Or what am I missing? At least provide the opportunity for someone rather than force them to a particular outcome
- techrat 5y ago
  > Lastly, right now you’re saying: > “Born in the wrong zip? And the school is failing? Sucks to be you! Not my problem” No. That's the logical outcome of a voucher system that only rewards the most successful schools instead of fixing the others. > Or what am I missing? Everything, apparently.
iammisc 5y ago
It's a fallacy to think there are not good schools possible in poorer areas; they used to be quite common, and still are in many places: https://www.city-journal.org/html/irreplaceable-9836.html https://www.city-journal.org/html/irreplaceable-9836.html Rich elites, which almost everyone on this forum is, imagine that the poor people in the inner city who want vouchers want to send their kid to some swanky rich kid school where everyone wears a blazer.... they don't. They want to send their kids to the ordinary private schools that would exist in their communities if they were able to afford non-public education.

whb07 5y ago

Well seeing as how the biggest failing schools are in large metros this argument doesn’t hold much does it? One of the biggest school system is in NYC and the average student graduating high school is reading at a 10 year old level or less. One could also imagine some sort of large vehicle whose sole purpose is to provide rides for students to attend the schools. Let me see if I can do some more research on such a scheme. Perhaps, one could paint them a vivid color, so that people could know they are “educational vehicles”. Maybe yellow? I think I’ve seen such a system before… Lastly, right now you’re saying: “Born in the wrong zip? And the school is failing? Sucks to be you! Not my problem” Or what am I missing? At least provide the opportunity for someone rather than force them to a particular outcome

techrat 5y ago
> Lastly, right now you’re saying: > “Born in the wrong zip? And the school is failing? Sucks to be you! Not my problem” No. That's the logical outcome of a voucher system that only rewards the most successful schools instead of fixing the others. > Or what am I missing? Everything, apparently.

iammisc 5y ago

It's a fallacy to think there are not good schools possible in poorer areas; they used to be quite common, and still are in many places: https://www.city-journal.org/html/irreplaceable-9836.html https://www.city-journal.org/html/irreplaceable-9836.html Rich elites, which almost everyone on this forum is, imagine that the poor people in the inner city who want vouchers want to send their kid to some swanky rich kid school where everyone wears a blazer.... they don't. They want to send their kids to the ordinary private schools that would exist in their communities if they were able to afford non-public education.