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> import when in nation generation isn't meeting consumption When people say "it's fiction" I think this is a lot of what they mean. If a location is net 100%

> import when in nation generation isn't meeting consumption When people say "it's fiction" I think this is a lot of what they mean. If a location is net 100% renewable, say, someone who is 100% solar, so they generate lots of excess in the daytime, but, consume lots on cloudy days and at night and we assume that imported power is very dirty, they might be a net 100% renewable but ultimately they are consuming polluting power. I suspect, with tons of Hydro/Geothermal (which are very on-demand/stable sources) the gross amount of power that costa rica imports is actually quite low and they are actually doing very well (especially compared to others who are "net 100% renewable"), but, I would love to see that figure (gross import %) represented when people talk about being net 100% renewable. Net 100% renewable with 1% gross imports is far more impressive and sustainable than net 100% renewable with 25% gross imports.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
As with everything, there is nuance. Good points. I think we're simply arguing over the amount of pessimism/optimism as the global energy transformation continues.
- AdamJacobMuller 5y ago
  Not even arguing (I'm not the person who said "it's false" without providing any information). I say it because I want to reward projects which can hit a crazy 1% gross target vs projects which are primarily for show and aren't useful without dirty grid power backing them a huge % of the time.
JohnHaugeland 5y ago
No, that isn't what I meant. Costa Rica does not run 100% on renewables. It's literally and simply a media half-baked feel good fiction. They still have gas cars, diesel busses, diesel generators, &c. They still emit tons and tons of carbon. They currently emit 1.64 metric tons per person, more than twice what their neighbors in Nicaragua do. They're carbon neutral in the greasy, lawyer, "well technically we meant this" way that you should never, ever take seriously. A Costa Rican has about 1/7 the emissions of an American. I know it's lovely to pretend, but let's come back to the real world here. These things are easy to look up . > I would love to see that figure (gross import %) Then look it up

toomuchtodo 5y ago

As with everything, there is nuance. Good points. I think we're simply arguing over the amount of pessimism/optimism as the global energy transformation continues.

AdamJacobMuller 5y ago
Not even arguing (I'm not the person who said "it's false" without providing any information). I say it because I want to reward projects which can hit a crazy 1% gross target vs projects which are primarily for show and aren't useful without dirty grid power backing them a huge % of the time.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago

No, that isn't what I meant. Costa Rica does not run 100% on renewables. It's literally and simply a media half-baked feel good fiction. They still have gas cars, diesel busses, diesel generators, &c. They still emit tons and tons of carbon. They currently emit 1.64 metric tons per person, more than twice what their neighbors in Nicaragua do. They're carbon neutral in the greasy, lawyer, "well technically we meant this" way that you should never, ever take seriously. A Costa Rican has about 1/7 the emissions of an American. I know it's lovely to pretend, but let's come back to the real world here. These things are easy to look up . > I would love to see that figure (gross import %) Then look it up