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I am now curious about what is so special about New Zealand. It's the only country when prostitution is completely decriminalized and there is no zoning even.

I am now curious about what is so special about New Zealand. It's the only country when prostitution is completely decriminalized and there is no zoning even. What is going on in Kiwis minds? How are they such a unique exception? And is it organic or was somehow put on high priority list given all Libertarians tech people from the US moving/seeking refuge in NZ? Is there still social stigma around it even though it's completely decriminalized? Some Kiwi feel free to answer

zhengyi13 5y ago
Not Kiwi. Just wanted to point out that distilling at home as a hobby is also (uniquely?) legal in NZ as well. So this is not necessarily an isolated attitude on their part.
- maverick-iceman 5y ago
  Maybe it has to do with lack of police force? So no-nonesense solution is to avoid them wasting time for useless stuff? Many useless things such as the war on drugs, alcohol and prostitution are done (in my opinion) to give the millions of cops around the world a sense of purpose and avoid a particular demographic which is prone to aggression (young males) to have a lack of purpose which will inevitably cause social tensions
- biztos 5y ago
  I don’t know about the legality, but home distilling is the norm and not the exception in rural Hungary, Serbia, and plenty of other European countries.
bloak 5y ago
Is New Zealand much different from Germany in this respect? Or the Netherlands?
- maverick-iceman 5y ago
  In NZ being a sex worker is a job like any other. Sex workers don't need a place to be affiliated with to do their job. The only extra step is that if they advertise online they must do it on one of the half dozen authorized portals which are all free . This is very important! Because in the NED and GER (at least in theory) the flow of money is client > brothel > sex worker. There is some sort of middleman As of now this is a very fringe problem even in the US and Europe because a client and a sex worker can agree to see each other informally , but if the powers that be decide to get rid of cash, then it's all the way back to barter. With bags and heels and purses which client bring as a tribute in exchange for sex, that would cause the inability for the sex worker to gather meaningful capital and get out of the trade when she reached her level of desired wealth. Heels, bags and purses are essentially worthless on secondary markets
ArkanExplorer 5y ago
NZ (and Australia) are extractive, colonial societies. Since original settlement, they had a surplus of males, due to immigration (this is still the case). You can see this by comparing the populations in 1950: https://www.populationpyramid.net/australia/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/australia/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/sweden/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/sweden/1950/ Some of these population imbalances would have been even more concentrated to eg. mining towns. As such, it was simply necessary to legalise prostitution, to keep the male work force satiated. Sweden also has little maritime tradition, compared to places like the Netherlands, UK, or Germany where legal prostitution is often concentrated in port cities.

zhengyi13 5y ago

Not Kiwi. Just wanted to point out that distilling at home as a hobby is also (uniquely?) legal in NZ as well. So this is not necessarily an isolated attitude on their part.

maverick-iceman 5y ago
Maybe it has to do with lack of police force? So no-nonesense solution is to avoid them wasting time for useless stuff? Many useless things such as the war on drugs, alcohol and prostitution are done (in my opinion) to give the millions of cops around the world a sense of purpose and avoid a particular demographic which is prone to aggression (young males) to have a lack of purpose which will inevitably cause social tensions
biztos 5y ago
I don’t know about the legality, but home distilling is the norm and not the exception in rural Hungary, Serbia, and plenty of other European countries.

bloak 5y ago

Is New Zealand much different from Germany in this respect? Or the Netherlands?

maverick-iceman 5y ago
In NZ being a sex worker is a job like any other. Sex workers don't need a place to be affiliated with to do their job. The only extra step is that if they advertise online they must do it on one of the half dozen authorized portals which are all free . This is very important! Because in the NED and GER (at least in theory) the flow of money is client > brothel > sex worker. There is some sort of middleman As of now this is a very fringe problem even in the US and Europe because a client and a sex worker can agree to see each other informally , but if the powers that be decide to get rid of cash, then it's all the way back to barter. With bags and heels and purses which client bring as a tribute in exchange for sex, that would cause the inability for the sex worker to gather meaningful capital and get out of the trade when she reached her level of desired wealth. Heels, bags and purses are essentially worthless on secondary markets

ArkanExplorer 5y ago

NZ (and Australia) are extractive, colonial societies. Since original settlement, they had a surplus of males, due to immigration (this is still the case). You can see this by comparing the populations in 1950: https://www.populationpyramid.net/australia/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/australia/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/sweden/1950/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/sweden/1950/ Some of these population imbalances would have been even more concentrated to eg. mining towns. As such, it was simply necessary to legalise prostitution, to keep the male work force satiated. Sweden also has little maritime tradition, compared to places like the Netherlands, UK, or Germany where legal prostitution is often concentrated in port cities.