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I'm one of the folks behind the fork (and part of the initial steering committee). Happy to answer any questions!

fatnoah 5y ago
The site mentions "additional functionality" vs. Mapbox Native. Is that additional functionality listed somewhere? (Apologies if it is and I missed it)
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  Metal support (coming soon) and MBTiles support (released AFAIK) are two things I know of, but I defer to the Releases page for specifics beyond that: https://github.com/maplibre/maplibre-gl-native/releases https://github.com/maplibre/maplibre-gl-native/releases.
  - fatnoah 5y ago
    Thanks!
TOMDM 5y ago
Maybe not the best place for this, but hey it's a question. When adding clusters vs points to a map, filtering points is really simple, but I haven't found a simple way to filter clusters outside of filtering a data source and reapplying it to the clusters. If there a better way of doing this?
- sleepy_keita 5y ago
  It's not perfect, but you can put counts of points in each cluster (maybe you have count = 5, A_count = 2, B_count = 3 which means that this particular cluster has 5 points total, 2 of which are A and 3 of which there are B). Then you can filter based on these attributes. The obvious downside of this is that the cluster positions aren't accurate because they're based on points that are supposed to be hidden, but it's fast and doesn't require recalculating.
billfruit 5y ago
Does it support rendering of rasters? What about support on Desktop platforms?
- z77dj3kl 5y ago
  Yes, you can render raster layers (tile sources). https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/map-tiles/ https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/map-tiles/
  - tuukkah 5y ago
    And here's the forked version of that example: https://maplibre.org/maplibre-gl-js-docs/example/map-tiles/ https://maplibre.org/maplibre-gl-js-docs/example/map-tiles/
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  MapLibre GL Native supports server-side raster rendering via tileserver-gl or a custom server implementation (my company does this). Desktop support should be possible with some extra work with Native, but I'm not certain, for instance, if the QT bindings are fully working yet.
  - mnutt 5y ago
    My understanding is that mapbox-gl-native dropped node binding support prior to the fork; the code is still there but the build system can’t build it. I’m hoping to help maplibre bring it back up to a working state.
loulouxiv 5y ago
What would it take to display a map in a style as close as possible to the one used on openstreetmap.org ?
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  A few things: - A data source for vector tiles; there's a lot of options: https://stadiamaps.com https://stadiamaps.com (my company), https://maptiler.com/ https://maptiler.com/ & https://jawg.io https://jawg.io (other core contributing companies), among others. - A style that matches. I'm not aware of an open source style that closely mirrors OSM's style using MapLibre GL Styles (also forked from Mapbox). OSM Bright is pretty close: https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright / https://github.com/openmaptiles/osm-bright-gl-style https://github.com/openmaptiles/osm-bright-gl-style.
- z77dj3kl 5y ago
  The OSM style is here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto There is an issue about converting it to vector: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3201 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3... Doesn't seem like there's any current vector versions of that style, but you could make one yourself using Maputnik or similar; you'd probably want to start with OpenMapTiles and maybe even one of the pre-existing styles for OMT like OSM bright.
- kylebarron 5y ago
  It would take someone designing the same style in the vector format. This [0] is the closest I've seen to a vector port of the default OSM style. Demo [1] [0]: https://github.com/baremaps/openstreetmap-vecto https://github.com/baremaps/openstreetmap-vecto [1]: https://www.baremaps.com/assets/demo.html https://www.baremaps.com/assets/demo.html
  - loulouxiv 5y ago
    In the Github issue linked by z77dj3kl I found a link to this vector port by ESRI : http://esri.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=d6b18a2e774c4959ba855f6ac90952a2 http://esri.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=d6b18... Closed source but very impressive
unknown_error 5y ago
I've struggled to understand the relationship between Mapbox, Mapbox Studio, Mapbox GL, OpenStreetMap, and other libraries like OpenLayers or Leaflet. Could you please explain (in brief) the mapping "ecosystem" as it were, and where Maplibre fits into the picture?
- huy-nguyen 5y ago
  Rough overview: Leaflet: fairly simple open source mapping library. Canvas-based. The original Mapbox (called MapboxJS) is based on this. Openlayers: open source mapping library that’s more capable (e.g many different protections) but also more complex. Can render to Canvas or SVG. Openstreetmap: public and free source of mapping data. Mapbox uses this as a default data source. MapboxGL: completely new implementation of a mapping library written in WebGL (should perform better). MapboxGL changed its license recently, prompting the creation of the libremap fork.
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  Good question! There's a lot of Map<thing>s and it's very unclear how they all fit together without prior experience. OpenStreetMap (OSM) is a community-driven, fully open and usable data library. It has usable data for almost the entire world for everything from cities, roads, houses, parks, country borders, and work. It's a database of everything you need to make map. They also have a website that renders that map, but it's not commercially usable. Mapbox is one of the first companies to take OSM's dataset and commercialize it. Along the way they created a lot of the wildly used mapping libraries, including renders, data formats, and styling tools. Mapbox Studio is one of Mapbox's proprietary tools for working with maps in their ecosystem. Mapbox GL is a suite of renderers, originally entirely open source, developed by Mapbox with the community to render map data (from many different sources). MapLibre GL is a community-driven fork of the Mapbox GL suite, after Mapbox closed the licenses to require payment if you use the latest versions. OpenLayers and Leaflet are both alternative, open source renderers with various levels of capabilities. Interestingly, the creator of Leaflet now works for Mapbox (if my facts are correct and current).
  - apendleton 5y ago
unknown_error 5y ago
I noticed that Mapbox Studio has a way of creating & exporting styles (kinda like stylesheets but for maps). Do you know if those styles can be imported into a libre renderer like Maplibre, or if a similar tool/ecosystem exists for creating & sharing open-source map styles? Like if I wanted all roads to be rainbow-colored and rivers to be green. In Mapbox Studio, the features all seem to be semantically tagged (e.g. this is a road of type X, a POI of type Y) and it makes styling a cinch. I know OSM has its own set of tags for features. Are these compatible (not sure if Mapbox Studio is using OSM data underneath)? Is there an established standard for this type of thing? (ps TY again for answering my other question so thoroughly)
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  https://maputnik.github.io https://maputnik.github.io is similar to Mapbox Studio, but isn't going to give you all you mentioned. All vector tile sources use tags in various ways, so Maputnik (and the resulting styles) do as well. There isn't a standard tagging schema (and all MVT sources tend to differ slightly), but OSM's tagging is often influential on the resulting schema.
  - unknown_error 5y ago
    That's exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you again!
- mourner 5y ago
  The exported styles are compatible (if you don't use newer features like terrain & fog) because Maplibre is nearly identical to GL JS v1.13, there were no rendering changes since the fork.
twelvechairs 5y ago
Im curious as to integration with DeckGL which seems to be the emerging standard for 3d maps and also for interactivity. Do you know if maplibre will work the same with it as mapboxgl does?
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  I'm not sure as to specifics (as I haven't tried this), but if DeckGL worked with 1.x Mapbox GL JS, it should just work with MapLibre, with a few potential minor adjustments (e.g., nomenclature). Can't promise it though.
  - billygoat 5y ago
    I can verify this: I upgraded my Deck.gl project from MapBox to MapLibre recently, and it was a simple matter of renaming some imports. This works absolutely seamlessly. I'm using Vue instead of the React integration and that's also working without any issues.
- kylebarron 5y ago
  Yes. deck.gl has two ways of interfacing with Mapbox GL, either where deck.gl is a layer on top of Mapbox GL (with a separate WebGL context) or by sharing the same WebGL context. Sharing the same WebGL context allows e.g. Mapbox's 3D buildings to "pop" above deck.gl or to put Mapbox's labels above deck.gl layers. Those docs are here [0]. Either way, the recommended way of connecting deck.gl with Mapbox is through React Map GL. Those docs describe how to use Maplibre GL here [1] and here [2]. [0]: https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map#using-deckgl-with-mapbox-gl-js https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map#using-deckgl... [1]: https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/mapbox-tokens#display-maps-without-a-mapbox-token https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/mapbox... [2]: https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/get-started#using-with-a-mapbox-gl-fork https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/get-st...
  - kylebarron 5y ago
    > Either way, the recommended way of connecting deck.gl with Mapbox is through React Map GL. I should note this is only the recommended way when you're using React
KingOfCoders 5y ago
Hey Luke, another great one from you :-)
- lukeqsee 5y ago
  Hey :) Thanks!
petre 5y ago
What is the additional functionality? I couldn't find any document comparing MapLibre GL to MapBox GL JS 1.x. We are using MapTiler along with MapBox GL JS. It seems that MapLibre GL JS is our next logical upgrade step. For one it's great that you have a Leaflet plugin under your github org.

The site mentions "additional functionality" vs. Mapbox Native. Is that additional functionality listed somewhere? (Apologies if it is and I missed it)

lukeqsee 5y ago
Metal support (coming soon) and MBTiles support (released AFAIK) are two things I know of, but I defer to the Releases page for specifics beyond that: https://github.com/maplibre/maplibre-gl-native/releases https://github.com/maplibre/maplibre-gl-native/releases.
- fatnoah 5y ago
  Thanks!

TOMDM 5y ago

Maybe not the best place for this, but hey it's a question. When adding clusters vs points to a map, filtering points is really simple, but I haven't found a simple way to filter clusters outside of filtering a data source and reapplying it to the clusters. If there a better way of doing this?

sleepy_keita 5y ago
It's not perfect, but you can put counts of points in each cluster (maybe you have count = 5, A_count = 2, B_count = 3 which means that this particular cluster has 5 points total, 2 of which are A and 3 of which there are B). Then you can filter based on these attributes. The obvious downside of this is that the cluster positions aren't accurate because they're based on points that are supposed to be hidden, but it's fast and doesn't require recalculating.

billfruit 5y ago

Does it support rendering of rasters? What about support on Desktop platforms?

z77dj3kl 5y ago
Yes, you can render raster layers (tile sources). https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/map-tiles/ https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/map-tiles/
- tuukkah 5y ago
  And here's the forked version of that example: https://maplibre.org/maplibre-gl-js-docs/example/map-tiles/ https://maplibre.org/maplibre-gl-js-docs/example/map-tiles/
lukeqsee 5y ago
MapLibre GL Native supports server-side raster rendering via tileserver-gl or a custom server implementation (my company does this). Desktop support should be possible with some extra work with Native, but I'm not certain, for instance, if the QT bindings are fully working yet.
- mnutt 5y ago
  My understanding is that mapbox-gl-native dropped node binding support prior to the fork; the code is still there but the build system can’t build it. I’m hoping to help maplibre bring it back up to a working state.

loulouxiv 5y ago

What would it take to display a map in a style as close as possible to the one used on openstreetmap.org ?

lukeqsee 5y ago
A few things: - A data source for vector tiles; there's a lot of options: https://stadiamaps.com https://stadiamaps.com (my company), https://maptiler.com/ https://maptiler.com/ & https://jawg.io https://jawg.io (other core contributing companies), among others. - A style that matches. I'm not aware of an open source style that closely mirrors OSM's style using MapLibre GL Styles (also forked from Mapbox). OSM Bright is pretty close: https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright / https://github.com/openmaptiles/osm-bright-gl-style https://github.com/openmaptiles/osm-bright-gl-style.
z77dj3kl 5y ago
The OSM style is here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto There is an issue about converting it to vector: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3201 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3... Doesn't seem like there's any current vector versions of that style, but you could make one yourself using Maputnik or similar; you'd probably want to start with OpenMapTiles and maybe even one of the pre-existing styles for OMT like OSM bright.
kylebarron 5y ago
It would take someone designing the same style in the vector format. This [0] is the closest I've seen to a vector port of the default OSM style. Demo [1] [0]: https://github.com/baremaps/openstreetmap-vecto https://github.com/baremaps/openstreetmap-vecto [1]: https://www.baremaps.com/assets/demo.html https://www.baremaps.com/assets/demo.html
- loulouxiv 5y ago
  In the Github issue linked by z77dj3kl I found a link to this vector port by ESRI : http://esri.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=d6b18a2e774c4959ba855f6ac90952a2 http://esri.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=d6b18... Closed source but very impressive

unknown_error 5y ago

I've struggled to understand the relationship between Mapbox, Mapbox Studio, Mapbox GL, OpenStreetMap, and other libraries like OpenLayers or Leaflet. Could you please explain (in brief) the mapping "ecosystem" as it were, and where Maplibre fits into the picture?

huy-nguyen 5y ago
Rough overview: Leaflet: fairly simple open source mapping library. Canvas-based. The original Mapbox (called MapboxJS) is based on this. Openlayers: open source mapping library that’s more capable (e.g many different protections) but also more complex. Can render to Canvas or SVG. Openstreetmap: public and free source of mapping data. Mapbox uses this as a default data source. MapboxGL: completely new implementation of a mapping library written in WebGL (should perform better). MapboxGL changed its license recently, prompting the creation of the libremap fork.
lukeqsee 5y ago
Good question! There's a lot of Map<thing>s and it's very unclear how they all fit together without prior experience. OpenStreetMap (OSM) is a community-driven, fully open and usable data library. It has usable data for almost the entire world for everything from cities, roads, houses, parks, country borders, and work. It's a database of everything you need to make map. They also have a website that renders that map, but it's not commercially usable. Mapbox is one of the first companies to take OSM's dataset and commercialize it. Along the way they created a lot of the wildly used mapping libraries, including renders, data formats, and styling tools. Mapbox Studio is one of Mapbox's proprietary tools for working with maps in their ecosystem. Mapbox GL is a suite of renderers, originally entirely open source, developed by Mapbox with the community to render map data (from many different sources). MapLibre GL is a community-driven fork of the Mapbox GL suite, after Mapbox closed the licenses to require payment if you use the latest versions. OpenLayers and Leaflet are both alternative, open source renderers with various levels of capabilities. Interestingly, the creator of Leaflet now works for Mapbox (if my facts are correct and current).
- apendleton 5y ago

unknown_error 5y ago

I noticed that Mapbox Studio has a way of creating & exporting styles (kinda like stylesheets but for maps). Do you know if those styles can be imported into a libre renderer like Maplibre, or if a similar tool/ecosystem exists for creating & sharing open-source map styles? Like if I wanted all roads to be rainbow-colored and rivers to be green. In Mapbox Studio, the features all seem to be semantically tagged (e.g. this is a road of type X, a POI of type Y) and it makes styling a cinch. I know OSM has its own set of tags for features. Are these compatible (not sure if Mapbox Studio is using OSM data underneath)? Is there an established standard for this type of thing? (ps TY again for answering my other question so thoroughly)

lukeqsee 5y ago
https://maputnik.github.io https://maputnik.github.io is similar to Mapbox Studio, but isn't going to give you all you mentioned. All vector tile sources use tags in various ways, so Maputnik (and the resulting styles) do as well. There isn't a standard tagging schema (and all MVT sources tend to differ slightly), but OSM's tagging is often influential on the resulting schema.
- unknown_error 5y ago
  That's exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you again!
mourner 5y ago
The exported styles are compatible (if you don't use newer features like terrain & fog) because Maplibre is nearly identical to GL JS v1.13, there were no rendering changes since the fork.

twelvechairs 5y ago

Im curious as to integration with DeckGL which seems to be the emerging standard for 3d maps and also for interactivity. Do you know if maplibre will work the same with it as mapboxgl does?

lukeqsee 5y ago
I'm not sure as to specifics (as I haven't tried this), but if DeckGL worked with 1.x Mapbox GL JS, it should just work with MapLibre, with a few potential minor adjustments (e.g., nomenclature). Can't promise it though.
- billygoat 5y ago
  I can verify this: I upgraded my Deck.gl project from MapBox to MapLibre recently, and it was a simple matter of renaming some imports. This works absolutely seamlessly. I'm using Vue instead of the React integration and that's also working without any issues.
kylebarron 5y ago
Yes. deck.gl has two ways of interfacing with Mapbox GL, either where deck.gl is a layer on top of Mapbox GL (with a separate WebGL context) or by sharing the same WebGL context. Sharing the same WebGL context allows e.g. Mapbox's 3D buildings to "pop" above deck.gl or to put Mapbox's labels above deck.gl layers. Those docs are here [0]. Either way, the recommended way of connecting deck.gl with Mapbox is through React Map GL. Those docs describe how to use Maplibre GL here [1] and here [2]. [0]: https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map#using-deckgl-with-mapbox-gl-js https://deck.gl/docs/get-started/using-with-map#using-deckgl... [1]: https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/mapbox-tokens#display-maps-without-a-mapbox-token https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/mapbox... [2]: https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/get-started#using-with-a-mapbox-gl-fork https://visgl.github.io/react-map-gl/docs/get-started/get-st...
- kylebarron 5y ago
  > Either way, the recommended way of connecting deck.gl with Mapbox is through React Map GL. I should note this is only the recommended way when you're using React

KingOfCoders 5y ago

Hey Luke, another great one from you :-)

lukeqsee 5y ago
Hey :) Thanks!

petre 5y ago

What is the additional functionality? I couldn't find any document comparing MapLibre GL to MapBox GL JS 1.x. We are using MapTiler along with MapBox GL JS. It seems that MapLibre GL JS is our next logical upgrade step. For one it's great that you have a Leaflet plugin under your github org.