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There was a story not too far back about some musicians generating every possible combination of 8 notes and publishing it in order to prevent future music copy

by dahart 5y ago

There was a story not too far back about some musicians generating every possible combination of 8 notes and publishing it in order to prevent future music copyright trolls. At the time I thought it was kind of a stunt and was a neat idea but not addressing a real problem with music copyright and real lawsuits. It looks like I might be totally wrong, because that’s exactly what Design Basics is doing. :/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22440944 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22440944

nitin_flanker 5y ago
There's a similar publication in 3D printing too. It's called Joshua Pearce’s Algorithm[0] which covers all the major parameters and components of 3d printing materials and other factors. It was built with an intention to invalidate 3D printing patents that cover broad elements and general materials and ideas, on the grounds of obviousness. [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0172219015000769?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01722...
akudha 5y ago
I guess the real problem is court cases can ruin people financially, even if they win. Ideas like this are nice, but the real solution would be to make it difficult for these trolls to go to court in the first place
Igelau 5y ago
We probably need this. I got whatever degree of nastygram that isn't a "strike" from YouTube once for a video of me singing a 150 year-old folk song from my own arrangement. Someone claimed to have copyright. I didn't fight it in earnest, but if I had a monetized account that I was depending on financially, I might have had to -- and of course, you pursue that at the hazard of losing your channel and Google account. Got a C&D once for a text graphics Whac-a-mole clone in Basic when I was a teenager. Kinda soured me on everything related to IP rights going forward.
munk-a 5y ago
Courts are actually pretty reasonable about music copyrights in most cases[1] - nobody wants really strong copyrights in that field anyways since "derivative" work is a really strong value creator. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsL5yW3bao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsL5yW3bao

by dahart 5y ago

nitin_flanker 5y ago

There's a similar publication in 3D printing too. It's called Joshua Pearce’s Algorithm[0] which covers all the major parameters and components of 3d printing materials and other factors. It was built with an intention to invalidate 3D printing patents that cover broad elements and general materials and ideas, on the grounds of obviousness. [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0172219015000769?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01722...

akudha 5y ago

I guess the real problem is court cases can ruin people financially, even if they win. Ideas like this are nice, but the real solution would be to make it difficult for these trolls to go to court in the first place

Igelau 5y ago

We probably need this. I got whatever degree of nastygram that isn't a "strike" from YouTube once for a video of me singing a 150 year-old folk song from my own arrangement. Someone claimed to have copyright. I didn't fight it in earnest, but if I had a monetized account that I was depending on financially, I might have had to -- and of course, you pursue that at the hazard of losing your channel and Google account. Got a C&D once for a text graphics Whac-a-mole clone in Basic when I was a teenager. Kinda soured me on everything related to IP rights going forward.

munk-a 5y ago

Courts are actually pretty reasonable about music copyrights in most cases[1] - nobody wants really strong copyrights in that field anyways since "derivative" work is a really strong value creator. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsL5yW3bao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsL5yW3bao