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That would be great. Hopefully the new tunnel[1] linking Zealand and North Germany should make that possible. A direct connection from Oslo to Hamburg would ope

by ginko 5y ago

That would be great. Hopefully the new tunnel[1] linking Zealand and North Germany should make that possible. A direct connection from Oslo to Hamburg would open up so many good train connections. Here's hoping DB doesn't screw up the connection like they did with the Gotthard tunnel. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fehmarn_Belt_Fixed_Link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fehmarn_Belt_Fixed_Link

pintxo 5y ago
They surely will
toomanybeersies 5y ago
Getting off topic, but skimming past I read that as "the new tunnel linking New Zealand and North Germany", which would be an impressive feat of engineering!
- johannes1234321 5y ago
  Critical part with that route is to go really through the direct line through the core and bit the long way close to surface.
dkarp 5y ago
I once took the train while backpacking from Hamburg to Copenhagen. I was incredibly surprised when part way through the journey I awoke on a ferry. It still blows my mind that they have a train that can roll on and off a ferry. Unfortunately, it looks like it no longer takes the ferry and one day will take that tunnel instead https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/hamburg-to-copenhagen-by-train.htm https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/hamburg-to-copenhag...
- cromka 5y ago
  That’s also the case for trains going to Sicily, BTW.
- liversage 5y ago
  I live in Copenhagen. Nowadays we have bridges or tunnels everywhere except when traveling to Germany. However, when I was younger ALL train travel outside Zealand (with Lolland and Falster) would involve going on a ferry. The carriages were on the lower deck sometimes mixed with cars and sometimes with cars on a separate deck. After departure you could leave the train for a nice break. It wasn't particularly fast but very relaxing. Surprisingly, I also remember that I sometimes would meet old friends while strolling on the deck. These ferries were bottlenecks and would put a lot of people in the same place at the same time.
  - dkarp 5y ago
    > These ferries were bottlenecks and would put a lot of people in the same place at the same time. It's easy to sound like a luddite when talking about these things, but something has obviously been unintentionally lost when the ferry was replaced with a tunnel. I've noticed that travelling with my noise cancelling headphones on precludes serendipity. What I mean is, 99% of the time I don't speak to someone when sitting on the train but every once in a while I get into a conversation and something comes of it. If I always have headphones on, I'm guaranteeing that will never happen.
rpadovani 5y ago
I'm really looking forward to the Brenner Base Tunnel[0]. Apart from cutting train time from Innsbruck to Bolzano from 120 to 50 minutes, it will increase the number of trains that can go through, and I hope it will absorb a lot of the lorries going through the Brenner Pass, [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenner_Base_Tunnel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenner_Base_Tunnel
- _ph_ 5y ago
  It would be even more awesome, if it were directly connected to the German train system, but on the German side, the connection is severely lacking and might not be there for many years. The state of the German railway system is pretty scandalous. The connection to the Swiss is also overloaded.
  - rpadovani 5y ago
    Yeah I'm unfortunately well aware. Also, Bolzano-Verona is quite lacking! But the Berlin–Palermo railway axis is one of the "core" projects of the EU, so I hope it will improve in time

by ginko 5y ago

pintxo 5y ago

They surely will

toomanybeersies 5y ago

Getting off topic, but skimming past I read that as "the new tunnel linking New Zealand and North Germany", which would be an impressive feat of engineering!

johannes1234321 5y ago
Critical part with that route is to go really through the direct line through the core and bit the long way close to surface.

dkarp 5y ago

I once took the train while backpacking from Hamburg to Copenhagen. I was incredibly surprised when part way through the journey I awoke on a ferry. It still blows my mind that they have a train that can roll on and off a ferry. Unfortunately, it looks like it no longer takes the ferry and one day will take that tunnel instead https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/hamburg-to-copenhagen-by-train.htm https://www.seat61.com/trains-and-routes/hamburg-to-copenhag...

cromka 5y ago
That’s also the case for trains going to Sicily, BTW.
liversage 5y ago
I live in Copenhagen. Nowadays we have bridges or tunnels everywhere except when traveling to Germany. However, when I was younger ALL train travel outside Zealand (with Lolland and Falster) would involve going on a ferry. The carriages were on the lower deck sometimes mixed with cars and sometimes with cars on a separate deck. After departure you could leave the train for a nice break. It wasn't particularly fast but very relaxing. Surprisingly, I also remember that I sometimes would meet old friends while strolling on the deck. These ferries were bottlenecks and would put a lot of people in the same place at the same time.
- dkarp 5y ago
  > These ferries were bottlenecks and would put a lot of people in the same place at the same time. It's easy to sound like a luddite when talking about these things, but something has obviously been unintentionally lost when the ferry was replaced with a tunnel. I've noticed that travelling with my noise cancelling headphones on precludes serendipity. What I mean is, 99% of the time I don't speak to someone when sitting on the train but every once in a while I get into a conversation and something comes of it. If I always have headphones on, I'm guaranteeing that will never happen.

rpadovani 5y ago

I'm really looking forward to the Brenner Base Tunnel[0]. Apart from cutting train time from Innsbruck to Bolzano from 120 to 50 minutes, it will increase the number of trains that can go through, and I hope it will absorb a lot of the lorries going through the Brenner Pass, [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenner_Base_Tunnel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenner_Base_Tunnel

_ph_ 5y ago
It would be even more awesome, if it were directly connected to the German train system, but on the German side, the connection is severely lacking and might not be there for many years. The state of the German railway system is pretty scandalous. The connection to the Swiss is also overloaded.
- rpadovani 5y ago
  Yeah I'm unfortunately well aware. Also, Bolzano-Verona is quite lacking! But the Berlin–Palermo railway axis is one of the "core" projects of the EU, so I hope it will improve in time